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From Shazron <shaz...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Late Response: Does Cordova make Developer happy
Date Fri, 15 Jan 2016 01:59:22 GMT
Thanks for the data Joerg!

Could you please file issues for items 2 and 3 at issues.cordova.io?
I think issue 1 can be wrapped into 3.

Issue 4 I'm not so sure since we don't want to play a game of "keeping
up with the difference in distributions" but a general "Cordova is to
[PhoneGap/Ionic/etc] like how WebKit is to Safari or how Chromium is
to Chrome"

If you would like to take a stab at implementing these, please look at
https://github.com/apache/cordova-docs and send a pull request as
well.


On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Joerg Holz <holz@hamburg.de> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> in the last two month I supported Cordova on stackoverflow a lot and I want to give you
a quick overview:
>
> Questions per month about 1000, unanswared about 75%.
>
> Ionic: 550/65%
>
> Telerik: 115/64%
>
> NativeScript: 18/64%
>
> jQuery: 10000/44%
>
>
> My peronal result of response is, that I got an accept of my answers on about every 7.
answer. A lot of my answers and the most of my comments got no response.
>
>
> There are two main types of Cordova users, which are asking:
>
> – The absolut beginner
>
> – The Middle-Type: one, who is in the middle of a project, but less experience on how
to handle projects and writing code.
>
>
> The Beginner-Type (From my feeling about 80% from all):
>
> My favorite is: «I want to make a service like Facebook. What do I need?».
>
> They do not have experience/knowledge in handling a project, how to write clean code
… They think it is just screwing some HTML, CSS and JS together. They put  everything of
scripts, libraries  together, which they get.
>
> The basics are missing.
>
>
> The Middle–Type:
>
> The standard problem is, missing or wrong Content-Security-Policy. And the other problem
is, they do not read the docs or they can’t find the info.
>
> From my feeling: About 50% have problems with event-driven-software.
>
>
> The less rate of answered questions comes from askers which have a max. reputation of
50 on stackoverflow. A lot of them are starting to write software and have chosen Cordova,
because it seams to be easy.
>
> The answering of «real» questions is from my feeling in a rate of 50%..
>
>
> Quit a lot of trouble  is coming from the Cordova-daugthers, like PhoneGap, Ionic, …
«I want to integrate plugin xyz. It doesn’t work».
>
>
> What should be done in my opinion?
>
> 1. We should more populate, maybe create a slogan: Write clean HTML, CSS, JS, then your
Cordova App will work.
>
> 2. We should write in the top of «Get Started Fast», that there are some skills to
build Hybrid-Apps.
>
> 3. We should have a small section, where we write what the best way is to make Cordova
apps unusable.
>
> 4. We should make more clear what the difference between Cordova, Ionic, PhoneGap, …
is.
>
>
>
>
> Greets from the Canary Islands,
>
>
> Joerg
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Jörg Holz | +49-175-640 35 80
> holz@hamburg.de
>
> https://www.workflow-management.net
> --------------------------------------------------------
>

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