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From: Carlos Santana <csantana23@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2015 18:47:44 +0000
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Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] CLI Templates
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Hi Dmitry
1.  It was discuss in the mailing list, that use case #1 was not need it,
and to be replace by --template, user don't have to have config.xml and
other cordova specific files they will be created. So the reason to
deprecate --copy-from
2.  yes it's similar to a cp or git clone, but also a download of npm, it
will replace app name and id if they are passed in to create command if
template contains config.xml they will get replace, no night mare not that
many files to add if template purposely missing just config.xml and empty
folders for hooks, plugins, platform. template should have a www and any
other files outside www they want in their template like res/resource/
 (cordova uses res, ionic uses resources, etc..) .gitignore, .editorconfig,
pacakge.json, etc.. any other files they which their app to have that
template will get them started with.


On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 11:10 PM Dmitry Blotsky <dblotsky@microsoft.com>
wrote:

> Thanks for the summary, Carlos! Sorry, I hadn=E2=80=99t read the whole th=
read when
> I sent my question. I read up after your email, and I have a better grasp
> on it now. My new questions are below.
>
> 1. What is the `cordova create` command then doing if it=E2=80=99s copyin=
g
> (potentially) the whole app it=E2=80=99s trying to create? The `--copy-fr=
om` flag
> creates fresh copies of Cordova-specific files and only copies the `www`
> folder, which is app-agnostic anyway.
> 2. Isn=E2=80=99t the new flag basically the same as an invocation of `cp`=
 or `git
> clone`? And if we=E2=80=99re going into the realm of examining the templa=
te and
> =E2=80=9Cfilling in=E2=80=9D potentially missing files, isn=E2=80=99t tha=
t a logical nightmare
> since there are so many possible things that could be missing in an app?
>
> Kindly,
> Dmitry
>
> > On Dec 5, 2015, at 7:00 AM, Carlos Santana <csantana23@gmail.com> wrote=
:
> >
> > The email thread has the details but in summary:
> > It doesn't handle npm and git as source
> > It doesn't copy everything
> > By adding npm and git having the flag copy-from it's confusing.
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 9:04 PM Dmitry Blotsky <dblotsky@microsoft.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hey folks. Sorry I'm late to the party, but why is `--copy-from` not
> >> sufficient?
> >>
> >> Kindly,
> >> Dmitry
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Carlos Santana [mailto:csantana23@gmail.com]
> >> Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 10:09 AM
> >> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] CLI Templates
> >>
> >> Michael we will love to hear your feedback, and we can improve on top =
of
> >> what's initially there.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 1:04 PM Carlos Santana <csantana23@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Michael
> >>> Links to PRs where available for a while on the proposal.
> >>>
> >>> https://github.com/apache/cordova-lib/pull/339
> >>> https://github.com/apache/cordova-cli/pull/226
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 11:33 AM Michael Brooks
> >>> <michael@michaelbrooks.ca>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I'd love to see a pull request rather than a straight up merge, sinc=
e
> >>>> the template discussion was more involved. Also, I'm really looking
> >>>> forward to seeing your work on this!
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 9:47 AM, Carlos Santana <csantana23@gmail.com=
>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I will be working later today with James from my team on merging
> >>>>> initial implementation of --template. it will update a few repos
> >>>>> (cli, lib, doc)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Anyone oppose?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 1:50 PM Carlos Santana
> >>>>> <csantana23@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> alias, deprecate and later remove
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 1:49 PM Carlos Santana
> >>>>>> <csantana23@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I agree, --template is the new --copy-from :-)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 1:48 PM Shazron <shazron@gmail.com> wrote=
:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Well, we could deprecate --copy-from, and alias --template to it=
.
> >>>> But
> >>>>>>>> we shouldn't have both, it should just be one implementation.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Carlos Santana <
> >>>> csantana23@gmail.com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> In some way we we are enhancing --copy-from
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I'm OK to the copy blindly even plugins and platforms, I was
> >>>> trying
> >>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> avoid people creating templates when is not need it if they
> >>>> already
> >>>>>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>> platforms and plugins
> >>>>>>>>> But I'm OK if we want to allow it, but I would not documented
> >>>>>>>>> :-)
> >>>> it
> >>>>>>>> just
> >>>>>>>>> happens to work
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> but I don't like the "--copy-from" name, I want to use
> >>>> "--template"
> >>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>> takes path, giturl, and npm name
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 1:41 PM Carlos Santana <
> >>>> csantana23@gmail.com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> What dynamic nature you want ?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I think using yeoman is bad idea, we tried at work at is a
> >>>>>>>>>> huge
> >>>>>>>> dependency
> >>>>>>>>>> in terms of foot print and number of dependencies.
> >>>>>>>>>> We then learned that just using the inquirer npm package
> >>>>>>>>>> gave us
> >>>>> what
> >>>>>>>> we
> >>>>>>>>>> wanted to create an interactive experience in the CLI
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> At least the first implementation I want to keep it simple,
> >>>>>>>>>> but
> >>>> you
> >>>>>>>>>> brought a good point about dynamic.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I will update proposal, add that if user passed any of the
> >>>> optional
> >>>>>>>>>> arguments for create like app-id, app-name, or app-version
> >>>>>>>>>> they
> >>>>>>>> replace the
> >>>>>>>>>> ones in the template.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I will double check with James to see if already implemented
> >>>> this in
> >>>>>>>> his
> >>>>>>>>>> current PR, if not then will added.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> It terms of dynamic I think after we get the first
> >>>>>>>>>> implementation
> >>>>>>>> out, I
> >>>>>>>>>> would like to enhance on top of it with allowing the
> >>>>>>>>>> template to
> >>>>> have
> >>>>>>>>>> scripts that can run
> >>>>>>>>>> like before_create and after_create, then the template can
> >>>> specify
> >>>>>>>> this in
> >>>>>>>>>> the scripts object of the package.json and cordova cli just
> >> runs.
> >>>>>>>> This way
> >>>>>>>>>> template owner can run what ever they want even inquirer to
> >>>>>>>>>> ask
> >>>>>>>> questions
> >>>>>>>>>> to user for additional things to setup with the template.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> [1]:
> >>>>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3a%
> >>>>>>>>>> 2f%2fwww.npmjs.com%2fpackage%2finquirer&data=3D01%7c01%7cdblot
> >>>>>>>>>> sky%40microsoft.com%7c9fb3634d35ba45cd7a7508d2fcd60177%7c72f
> >>>>>>>>>> 988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=3DcGhgCrxXQToX3DsPn2Om
> >>>>>>>>>> UCsTQtcWl11IjuPpgRdFlco%3d
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 1:56 PM Parashuram N <
> >>>>> panarasi@microsoft.com>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> ReactNative init does use yeoman - that is a good idea !!
> >>>> However,
> >>>>>>>> does
> >>>>>>>>>>> that mean that we need to depend on Yeoman also ? Does it
> >>>>>>>>>>> make
> >>>>> sense
> >>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>> simply have a separate yeoman generator ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 11/12/15, 10:10 AM, "Gorkem Ercan"
> >>>>>>>>>>> <gorkem.ercan@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> How about adding support for some more dynamic generation.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Can we add yeoman as an option something like $cordova
> >>>>>>>>>>>> create
> >>>>> myApp
> >>>>>>>>>>>> --template=3Dyo:m
> >>>>>>>>>>>> to invoke the generator m ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Gorkem
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 10 Nov 2015, at 19:52, Carlos Santana wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Parashuram
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I would say that if they have "platforms" and "plugins"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> it's
> >>>> not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> consider a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> template, its consider a cordova project ready to be use
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> no
> >>>> need
> >>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> run
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> create on it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> As far as cp-from, it's doesn't copy much only www and
> >>>>>>>> config.xml, I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> want to change it's behavior for backwards
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> compatibility. I
> >>>>> think
> >>>>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> will
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> be good to mark it deprecated for a certain period of
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> time,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> +1 for deprecating the copy-from.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 5:19 PM Parashuram N <
> >>>>>>>> panarasi@microsoft.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, they would. However, there could be cases where
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> folks
> >>>>> would
> >>>>>>>> like
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have templates that have changes stuff in platforms, or
> >>>> added
> >>>>>>>> custom
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> plugins or hooks. I think that instead of adding extra
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> code
> >>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> prevent all
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> these things, we keep things simple, and copy over
> >>>> everything.
> >>>>>>>> The
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> templates can then decide what they want to do, and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> most of
> >>>>> them
> >>>>>>>> will
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bundle plugins or platforms.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Steven Gill [mailto:stevengill97@gmail.com]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 2:16 PM
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] CLI Templates
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If the plugins and platforms are listed in config.xml,
> >>>> wouldn't
> >>>>>>>> they
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> get fetched on prepare?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Parashuram N
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <panarasi@microsoft.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it should copy platform and plugins folders,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
> >>>> those
> >>>>>>>> are a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> part of the template. I think the guidance should be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>> most
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> templates should not include a platform or a plugin
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folder,
> >>>>> but
> >>>>>>>> if
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they do - for reasons like custom plugins, etc, then
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we
> >>>> should
> >>>>>>>> let
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that happen. The only enhancement from --copy-from
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be
> >>>>>>>> that we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> support npm and git URLs.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Carlos Santana [mailto:csantana23@gmail.com]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 1:26 PM
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] CLI Templates
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Parashuram
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The template doesn't any special structure, the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> current
> >>>> hello
> >>>>>>>> app in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> npm is already a template
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Will add comment in PR about having fixtures in tests
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>> different
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uses cases with different type of templates
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The code copies everything except plugins and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> platforms
> >>>>>>>> directories,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe it needs some comments to make it more clear
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It should copy dot files like .gitignore,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .editorconfig,
> >>>>>>>> .bowerrc
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Very
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> important at least for me .gitignore, it helps when
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folks
> >>>> ask
> >>>>> if
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should ignore platforms and plugins from source
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> control and
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> answer
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is always YES. If they are asking then it means they
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need
> >>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> advise.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 3:27 PM Parashuram N
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <panarasi@microsoft.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 to the proposal.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there a structure of a sample template ? Also, the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> code
> >>>>>>>> seems to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> copy everything from npm or the gitURL, though in the
> >>>>> proposal
> >>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> say that dot file and hooks/platforms should not be
> >>>> copies.
> >>>>>>>> Should
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we talk about that in the proposal too ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Raymond Camden [mailto:raymondcamden@gmail.com]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 12:01 PM
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] CLI Templates
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, nothing to add here but +1.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh, the only thing I'd add is that I wish there was a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way
> >>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *permanently* set a template. I hate the default
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordova
> >>>>>>>> template
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (sorry
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ;) and would love to make the CLI always use my own
> >>>>> particular
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> template.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 1:52 PM, Ryan J. Salva
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rsalva@microsoft.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I love it!
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rjs
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ryan J. Salva  |  Principal Program Manager Lead
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visual
> >>>>> Studio
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tools for Apache Cordova rsalva@microsoft.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 206 612 5079 mobile
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Carlos Santana [mailto:csantana23@gmail.com]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 7:49 PM
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [DISCUSS] CLI Templates
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From the Face2Face meeting updating the cordova cli
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>> work
> >>>>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> templates sounded like a good feature to add to the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CLI
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I finally got around to this and created the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proposal and
> >>>>> got
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> James
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dubee from our team to take a stab at implementation.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CLI-Template proposal [1]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> https://github.com/cordova/cordova-discuss/blob/master/proposal
> >>>>>>>> s/C
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LI
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -T
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Carlos
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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