Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-cordova-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-cordova-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 793DA182C0 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 00:04:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 27878 invoked by uid 500); 9 Dec 2015 00:04:23 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cordova-dev-archive@cordova.apache.org Received: (qmail 27835 invoked by uid 500); 9 Dec 2015 00:04:23 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cordova.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@cordova.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cordova.apache.org Received: (qmail 27824 invoked by uid 99); 9 Dec 2015 00:04:22 -0000 Received: from Unknown (HELO spamd1-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 09 Dec 2015 00:04:22 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd1-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd1-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 79C74C5C78 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 00:04:22 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd1-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 4.251 X-Spam-Level: **** X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.251 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[HTML_MESSAGE=3, KAM_LAZY_DOMAIN_SECURITY=1, KAM_LOTSOFHASH=0.25, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=disabled Received: from mx1-eu-west.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd1-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.7]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OXL8RVPX7g8d for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 00:04:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from si-002-i69.relay.mailchannels.net (si-002-i69.relay.mailchannels.net [184.154.112.243]) by mx1-eu-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-eu-west.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 8FFFE207E3 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 00:04:06 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: wwwh|x-authuser|nadercom@s1-miami.accountservergroup.com Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27B124F0E for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 00:01:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from s1-miami.accountservergroup.com (ip-10-42-131-234.us-west-2.compute.internal [10.42.131.234]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3DB3B47B9 for ; Wed, 9 Dec 2015 00:01:48 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: wwwh|x-authuser|nadercom@s1-miami.accountservergroup.com Received: from s1-miami.accountservergroup.com (s1-miami.accountservergroup.com [10.123.149.232]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.5.6); Wed, 09 Dec 2015 00:01:48 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: wwwh|x-authuser|nadercom@s1-miami.accountservergroup.com X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: wwwh X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1449619308593:3240287630 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1449619308593 Received: from mail-io0-f170.google.com ([209.85.223.170]:36266) by s1-miami.accountservergroup.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1a6SCY-000Caz-Ij for dev@cordova.apache.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 19:01:46 -0500 Received: by iofh3 with SMTP id h3so41969213iof.3 for ; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 16:01:46 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.107.32.76 with SMTP id g73mr2403102iog.78.1449619306095; Tue, 08 Dec 2015 16:01:46 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.182.8 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Dec 2015 16:01:16 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Sergio Nader Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2015 22:01:16 -0200 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate cordova-wp8 To: dev@cordova.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1140baf0ccb27705266bcb21 X-AuthUser: nadercom@s1-miami.accountservergroup.com --001a1140baf0ccb27705266bcb21 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks, but I tried a couple of times to ask about it (and other stuff) and got no answer. Weil, will not change the subject of this conversation. If anyone can help me or have any other suggestion, please email directly. Regards, S=C3=A9rgio Nader Skype: sergio.nader.br Tel: 55 11 9 9101 4590 =E2=80=8Bwww.brasilisdigital.com.br Tecnologia & Inova=C3=A7=C3=A3o=E2=80=8B On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Parashuram N wrote= : > The Cordova Slack at http://cordova.slack.com/ would be a good place to > start. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sergio Nader [mailto:sergio.nader@brasilisdigital.com.br] > Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2015 3:41 PM > To: dev@cordova.apache.org > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Deprecate cordova-wp8 > > Hello, > > I have several questions about the diferences and uses of wp8, windows > (universal). > I tried hard to find some objective readings about them, but could not > found anything concise. > Where is the right place to ask for orientation? > > Best regards, > > Sergio > > S=C3=A9rgio Nader > > Skype: > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dsergio.nader.br&data= =3D01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0a002f245dd04fb98e7e08d300299415%7c= 72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=3Du3mM56jO%2byqQI%2f216zKZNDa0LJ= v3BaN4n2EvzZ%2bvr6c%3d > > Tel: 55 11 9 9101 4590 > > > > =E2=80=8B > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dwww.brasilisdigital.= com.br&data=3D01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0a002f245dd04fb98e7e08d3= 00299415%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=3DurBRhS2yfKIE1IbwQ3F= RCedbtIm5RJIOG2hvp7PZRxc%3d > > Tecnologia & Inova=C3=A7=C3=A3o=E2=80=8B > > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 8:45 PM, Jesse wrote: > > > The deprecation window is a 'minimum' of 6 months. > > Waiting 3 months to maybe wait 6 more months seems less efficient than > > deprecating now and deciding in 6 months time if we want to move on it. > > Deprecation is not the end, just the beginning of it. > > > > Also, we need to nudge people to move forwards, they are building on a > > sdk that can only target wp 8.0 which was released 3 years ago. > > If we value this group and want to continue supporting the platform > > then we should bite the bullet and update it to at least support 8.1 > > (Apr. 2014) but I think we are better off focusing on windows universal > going forward. > > > > > > > > @purplecabbage > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Drisingj.com&data= =3D01 > > %7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0a002f245dd04fb98e7e08d300299415%7c > > 72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=3DbqFj%2fQbrkwxV1oreM2vw59FI= o > > %2bMCgXQzq1zJ8t4dSdE%3d > > > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Parashuram N > > wrote: > > > > > I pinged the folks here on VS team to get an idea of number of > > > people building for WP8. Looks like this is still a significant > > > number (more > > than > > > 10%) and almost 2000 unique users building for WP8 per month. Can we > > delay > > > the deprecation for 3 more months to see if this number can go down ? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jesse [mailto:purplecabbage@gmail.com] > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 2, 2015 11:06 AM > > > To: dev@cordova.apache.org > > > Subject: [DISCUSS] Deprecate cordova-wp8 > > > > > > We've talked about it for awhile, but never moved on it. cordova-wp8 > > > has been a work horse that seen us through tough times but the sun > > > is > > setting. > > > > > > cordova-windows has been a viable alternative for some time now, and > > > allows developers to target newer device features from wp8.1 and > > > wp10 as well. > > > Removing the responsibility of implementing changes in this now > > > ancient code base will free many of us to focus on making the > > > windows universal workflow better. > > > > > > I would like to see this wrapped up by the end of the year, which > > > for me is the end of next week. > > > > > > Some suggestions of what needs to happen next : > > > - display warning message in cli when devs type `cordova platform > > > add > > wp8` > > > ( next cordova-lib/cli release ) > > > - provide a plugin-dev migration guide outlining how to leverage > > > existing C# code in a windows-universal application ( I will do this > > > ) > > > - update repos / documentation with polite wording to move on > > > - close a bunch of wp8 related issues in jira with "won't fix' > > > - put wp8 out to pasture > > > > > > What are your thoughts? > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Jesse > > > > > > @purplecabbage > > > > > > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Drisingj.com&data= =3D01 > > %7c01%7ctoddmosc%40microsoft.com%7c627f22cbc05040478d9808d2fb4bb85c%7c > > 72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=3DbaC3YZLF3cU%2fbC5ZYH7QvBtp= y > > YtxBhJhkQd57sERCC0%3d > > > > > > --001a1140baf0ccb27705266bcb21--