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From Carlos Santana <csantan...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] cordova-ios 4.0.0 release
Date Wed, 18 Nov 2015 12:55:21 GMT
Great !!

- Carlos
@csantanapr

> On Nov 18, 2015, at 7:04 AM, julio cesar sanchez <jcesarmobile@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hurray!
> 
> 2015-11-18 12:52 GMT+01:00 Shazron <shazron@gmail.com>:
> 
>> The board is almost clear -- now to test this for a bit before it's
>> ready for primetime.
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/RapidBoard.jspa?rapidView=76
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 2:21 PM, Shazron <shazron@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Thanks guys!
>>> I've commented on the PR, there is one more commit to add.
>>> 
>>> Created the board:
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/RapidBoard.jspa?rapidView=96
>>> (based off the label you created)
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 8:42 AM, Vladimir Kotikov (Akvelon)
>>> <v-vlkoti@microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi, guys.
>>>> 
>>>> We've cherry-picked all the commits related to iOS9 / Xcode 7 issues
>> into 3.9.x and send corresponding PR to 3.9.x branch [1]. Shazrov, Steve
>> please review when possible.
>>>> 
>>>> Regarding new board for 3.9.2 release - neither Sergey nor me don't
>> have a permissions to create a shared queries, so we just tagged issues
>> with <cordova-ios-3.9.2> label. You can find all tagged issues using a
>> query [2].
>>>> 
>>>> ---
>>>> [1] https://github.com/apache/cordova-ios/pull/175
>>>> [2]
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-9729?jql=labels%20%3D%20cordova-ios-3.9.2
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Shazron [mailto:shazron@gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 3:29 PM
>>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] cordova-ios 4.0.0 release
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry for the late reply -- took a sick day.
>>>> 
>>>> I'd really like to just get cordova-ios 4.x out without a patch release
>> in between, since there are just a few more issues left before we can clear
>> the board (I'll triage it again), and a 4.x release would follow closely a
>> 3.9.2 release.
>>>> 
>>>> After mulling it over -- what I want and what is needed is of course
>> two things. I really don't want the headache of third-party plugin breakage
>> issues on the first day of release, which will happen. The API removals
>> (although our prerogative) never had a deprecation warning. In a perfect
>> world, after blogging about it and communicating it to plugin authors, they
>> would update their plugins in a backwards compatible way immediately (which
>> I plan to write a howto included in the platform and/or blog post --
>> there's a jira issue for it)
>>>> 
>>>> No plugin author updates things without encountering a breakage after
>> hearing from their users -- blog posts just don't have the impact that code
>> breakage does :) So -- here's a plan:
>>>> 
>>>> A cordova-ios-3.9.2 release, there should be two goals:
>>>> 1. iOS 9 / Xcode 7 fixes (scan the 4.x kanban board for all fixed
>> issues) 2. Add deprecation/removal warnings through the macro (
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fgithub.com%2fapache%2fcordova-ios%2fblob%2fmaster%2fCordovaLib%2fClasses%2fPublic%2fCDVAvailabilityDeprecated.h%23L23&data=01%7c01%7cv-vlkoti%40064d.mgd.microsoft.com%7cd6ed60025678403e0fd008d2dba59f1b%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=7p9BQz45eR6YUHUjiySQolzVCT9bNmqidrTQTVkn8OM%3d
>> ).
>>>> Not a deprecation, but a removal since that is our prerogative for
>> major version bumps.
>>>> 
>>>> For #2, for the API items that have been removed (through the macros)
>>>> -- we include strong language and pointers on how to fix it, and/or
>> instructions for users to contact the plugin author to fix. Not sure how
>> hard -- we could have some introspection in the plugin to actually print
>> out the plugin id responsible.
>>>> 
>>>> For cordova-ios-3.9.2 I would create a kanban board "cordova-ios-3.9.2"
>> (linked to label 'cordova-ios-3.9.2'), then go through the cordova-ios-4.x
>> board, see what issues apply, then add the label "cordova-ios-3.9.2" which
>> would automatically appear on the new board. Go through the items in the
>> new board, and cherry-pick the patches into the 3.9.x branch.
>>>> 
>>>> Can Microsoft take on this 3.9.2 release while I continue to get the
>> 4.x release out?
>>>> 
>>>> FYI -- ATS is handled by the CLI (should be in the next cli release)
>> and is not dependent on the cordova-ios platform.
>>>> 
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Nikhil Khandelwal <
>> nikhilkh@microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>>> Sent the message before completing it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What are good tasks to be poached on cordova-ios-4.x? In particular,
>> my team can help out with cordova-lib related ios tasks. Also, fixing
>> plugins or filing issues for upcoming breakages are great areas we can help
>> out. ios 4.x has critical fixes for XCode 7 usage which people need sooner
>> rather than later [1]. Could you mark them with a tag 'poachable'? We can
>> follow up on slack as well if this requires back and forth. I'll ping you
>> later today.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As for breaking change below, I've not been keeping up ios-4.x as
>> closely - I must've missed the communication on it. I understand there is a
>> possibility of breaking because of how "categories" work in Objective-C (I
>> just read up on it - it's a nifty feature). I also understand that they
>> were not *intended* to be used. AFAIK we do not document our platform APIs
>> and even our core plugins (camera) was using this particular API. As we
>> discussed in cordova F2F, developers do not have high confidence with the
>> version of plugins (particularly third party) to pick and choose and
>> anything we could do in how we version our API/manage breaking changes -
>> will make Cordova a smoother experience. The impact of this breaking change
>> is HIGH from the small sample set of plugins we tested.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As far as I understand, Cordova-ios 3.9.x is not usable with XCODE 7
-
>> ATS, ENABLE_BITCODE being two issues[2]. Cordova-ios 4.x is not ready and
>> will likely break the third-party plugins they use when it releases. Should
>> we really push for a patch release for cordova-ios 3.9.x to fix XCODE 7
>> issues? @Shaz: How feasible would this be? I know some of us at Microsoft
>> can help do this with guidance.
>>>>> 
>>>>> [1]
>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fstacko
>>>>> verflow.com%2fsearch%3fq%3dENABLE_BITCODE%2b%255Bcordova%255D&data=01%
>>>>> 7c01%7cv-vlkoti%40064d.mgd.microsoft.com%7cd6ed60025678403e0fd008d2dba
>>>>> 59f1b%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=6TZPBz5vNlDgL1A9c7%
>>>>> 2fsUoknh553FwrIqL7pjbsqcFE%3d [2]
>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fstacko
>>>>> verflow.com%2fsearch%3fq%3d%2522XCODE%2b7%2522%2b%255Bcordova%255D&dat
>>>>> a=01%7c01%7cv-vlkoti%40064d.mgd.microsoft.com%7cd6ed60025678403e0fd008
>>>>> d2dba59f1b%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=LKaFhkW05D%2fG
>>>>> ZcInG4LUTRm9Am2QMyMMxhrwcFtCIK0%3d
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Nikhil Khandelwal [mailto:nikhilkh@microsoft.com]
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 7:09 AM
>>>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
>>>>> Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] cordova-ios 4.0.0 release
>>>>> 
>>>>> What are good tasks to be poached on cordova-ios-4.x? In particular,
>> my team can help out with cordova-lib related ios tasks. Also, fixing
>> plugins or filing issues for upcoming breakages are great areas we can help
>> out. ios 4.x has critical fixes for XCode 7 usage which people need sooner
>> rather than later [1]. Could you mark them with a tag 'poachable'? We can
>> follow up on slack as well if this requires back and forth. I'll ping you
>> later today.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As for breaking change below, I've not been keeping up ios-4.x as
>>>>> closely - I must've missed the communication on it. I understand there
>>>>> is a possibility of breaking because of how "categories" work in
>>>>> Objective-C (I just read up on it - it's a nifty feature). I also
>>>>> understand that they were not *intended* to be used. AFAIK we do not
>>>>> document our platform APIs and even our core plugins (camera) was
>>>>> using this particular API. As we discussed in cordova F2F
>>>>> 
>>>>> As far as I understand, Cordova-ios 3.9.x is not usable with XCODE 7
-
>> ATS, ENABLE_BITCODE being two issues[2]. Cordova-ios 4.x is not ready and
>> will likely break the third-party plugins they use when it releases. Should
>> we really push for a patch release for cordova-ios 3.9.x to fix XCODE 7
>> issues? @Shaz: How feasible would this be?
>>>>> 
>>>>> [1]
>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fstacko
>>>>> verflow.com%2fsearch%3fq%3dENABLE_BITCODE%2b%255Bcordova%255D&data=01%
>>>>> 7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7cea1259c06ea744fff37e08d2da213c72%7c7
>>>>> 2f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=EssE%2b0BTiymN1aS7HtBoOVM%2b
>>>>> usvcGAKZHanRs9QZXYw%3d [2]
>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fstacko
>>>>> verflow.com%2fsearch%3fq%3d%2522XCODE%2b7%2522%2b%255Bcordova%255D&dat
>>>>> a=01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7cea1259c06ea744fff37e08d2da213c7
>>>>> 2%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=PBGhQ3sro1fE6Ft3ZOHBv3R
>>>>> kLdNMOg%2fp4gFgSq2Eets%3d
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Nikhil
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Shazron [mailto:shazron@gmail.com]
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2015 10:34 PM
>>>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] cordova-ios 4.0.0 release
>>>>> 
>>>>> This release will not be complete as long as the cordova-ios-4.x board
>> has issues. The only major issue is the plugin building stuff plus docs.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The removal was projected for some time - you might not have
>> remembered the discussions in JIRA. NSData+Base64 are "Categories" in
>> Objective-C parlance. These were *never* documented to be used outside of
>> Cordova and are fair game for removal, particularly a major version
>> release. The problem with Categories are, other non-Cordova code can
>> implement these Categories with the same names as well -- and during
>> runtime the implementation that is "chosen" is indeterminate. We can't have
>> that with Cordova since JSON serialization and deserialization are
>> important for the bridge.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, a blog post and "migration guide" is coming, among other things
>>>>> on my plate -- see
>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fissue
>>>>> s.apache.org%2fjira%2fbrowse%2fCB-9785&data=01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40micro
>>>>> soft.com%7c65695fee7d4149d0fd4108d2d9d9507f%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7c
>>>>> d011db47%7c1&sdata=sGf5ya8dvvT2BxunFhyA0X7IzCXRdEG4bxmbZT0rgu0%3d
>>>>> My plan is to send pull requests to some plugins with the common
>> issues, so people can see how to update.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 9:45 PM, Nikhil Khandelwal <
>> nikhilkh@microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Where are we with this release?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Alexander Sorokin did some analysis on plugin build failures because
>> of this ios-4.0-dev and there are quite a few.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This spreadsheet summarizes the build failures with the build log
in
>> a comment:
>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fdocs
>> .
>>>>>> google.com%2fspreadsheets%2fd%2f1sm8ioXY21z3RdyqT7J9n1Q_hmm9zgod5awTo
>>>>>> F
>>>>>> F_X66U%2fedit%3fusp%3dsharing&data=01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com
>>>>>> %
>>>>>> 7c65695fee7d4149d0fd4108d2d9d9507f%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47
>>>>>> % 7c1&sdata=PTiv%2bPvncuJ4g0b%2bj8GTO1ovdCKL8Y%2fHFW4QEQt%2b6i8%3d
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Quite a few of the failures are because of the removal of
>> NsData+Base64.h
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fgithub.com%2fapache%2fcordova-ios%2fblob%2fmaster%2fguides%2fAPI%2520changes%2520in%25204.0.md%23nsdatabase64h.&data=01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7c65695fee7d4149d0fd4108d2d9d9507f%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=GS43mbEp5TKlUWs4A2mRMZ36sMaBxniFC%2fQbRkzzg24%3d
>> What's the rationale behind removing this? Did we deprecate these methods
>> before we removed them?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I understand the changes for plugin developers are simple - but it
>> does seem to require a number of plugins to be updated to ensure apps are
>> not broken.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It will be great to publish a blog post on cordova blog about these
>> breaking changes.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Nikhil
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Carlos Santana [mailto:csantana23@gmail.com]
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 10:22 PM
>>>>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] cordova-ios 4.0.0 release
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> +1 Choo Choo ...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I reviewed all links in your proposal and they look and don't have
>>>>>> concerns
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> IBM MobileFirst was affected only by the API change of using
>>>>>> webviewengine now but that's so far the only major change
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In the kaban board for 4.0 there are some issues I consider nice
to
>>>>>> have that are not blockers to get a 4.0 out for iOS if we get closed
>>>>>> to the ios9 launched date they can be deferred to a 4.0.1
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 7:38 PM Shazron <shazron@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Gotta get the train going again, it's been too long.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The kanban board for this is at:
>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fiss
>>>>>>> u
>>>>>>> e
>>>>>>> s.apache.org%2fjira%2fsecure%2fRapidBoard.jspa%3frapidView%3d76&data
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>> 0
>>>>>>> 1%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7c457cbbc8d60c461beede08d2b41fb286
>>>>>>> %
>>>>>>> 7
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>>>>>>> W
>>>>>>> o
>>>>>>> Ra2plB0lJXeCJb9RC2Sqw%3d
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Please help if you can by assigning an issue to yourself, and
>>>>>>> selecting the "Start Progress" button. This will show who is
working
>>>>>>> on what in the middle "In Progress" column.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I've trimmed this and it includes cordova-ios platform issues,
and
>>>>>>> some plugin issues. Priority given to platform issues of course,
and
>>>>>>> issues with iOS 9. If there is a pressing issue that needs to
go in,
>>>>>>> assign it the label "cordova-ios-4.0.x" but propose it to this
>>>>>>> thread first so we don't get de-railed, there's only so much
room on
>>>>>>> the train. Similarly if you think an issue can get thrown off
the
>>>>>>> train to cordova-ios-5.0.x, post on this thread.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Focus is on core plugin stability with the new platform, since
it
>>>>>>> does have API changes. If downstream distribution people are
on this
>>>>>>> list, this concerns your third-party plugins too.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The easiest way to test if it affects your plugin building:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ```
>>>>>>> cordova platform add
>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fgit
>>>>>>> h
>>>>>>> u
>>>>>>> b.com
>> %2fapache%2fcordova-ios.git&data=01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.
>>>>>>> c
>>>>>>> om%7c457cbbc8d60c461beede08d2b41fb286%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011
>>>>>>> d b 47%7c1&sdata=%2fyEILBHFok2F6BK9aeOOd3ibr3V4GNFhvhWWek%2fRqjs%3d
>>>>>>> cordova plugin add your-plugin-id
>>>>>>> cordova build
>>>>>>> ```
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Plugin updates and highlights:
>>>>>>>    - API changes doc:
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fgithub.com%2fapache%2fcordova-ios%2fblob%2fmaster%2fguides%2fAPI%2520changes%2520in%25204.0.md&data=01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7c457cbbc8d60c461beede08d2b41fb286%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=oc6rb7Mbb2%2bDmKRPwtRBd3jyl0gh74mA5I%2fwiHLpqhM%3d
>>>>>>>    - 3 new private core plugins to the platform:
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fgithub.com%2fapache%2fcordova-ios%2ftree%2fmaster%2fCordovaLib%2fClasses%2fPrivate%2fPlugins&data=01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7c457cbbc8d60c461beede08d2b41fb286%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=xoM2X4%2bcjp9oqKHhtviNfEdimxiIR%2bTJrg80tI1Fbek%3d
>>>>>>>    - Plugin localized strings and resource loading:
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fgithub.com%2fapache%2fcordova-ios%2fblob%2fmaster%2fCordovaLib%2fClasses%2fPublic%2fCDVPlugin%252BResources.h&data=01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7c457cbbc8d60c461beede08d2b41fb286%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=m2xhhALHTJ8rb2aPg68hMWVcU9ebo51zGXwihQEr1LY%3d
>>>>>>>   - Preferences helper:
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fgithub.com%2fapache%2fcordova-ios%2fblob%2fmaster%2fCordovaLib%2fClasses%2fPublic%2fNSDictionary%252BCordovaPreferences.h&data=01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7c457cbbc8d60c461beede08d2b41fb286%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=jUUM60Yks2vRWVPJdeUc8Hhek3CuH6bYKwQlbXDZSxM%3d
>>>>>>>   - WebViews as plugins. UIWebView is a private core plugin (see
>> above).
>>>>>>> WKWebView as a plugin installable
>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fgit
>>>>>>> h
>>>>>>> u
>>>>>>> b.com%2fapache%2fcordova-plugins%2ftree%2fmaster%2fwkwebview-engine&
>>>>>>> d
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> ta=01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7c457cbbc8d60c461beede08d2b41f
>>>>>>> b
>>>>>>> 2
>>>>>>> 86%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=oxWiqvoBbVXRKZVL64w2
>>>>>>> W
>>>>>>> O
>>>>>>> XjbBJ%2fdvVu2cBVnV4hf9Y%3d
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I also want to highlight this scenario which a lot of people
will
>>>>>>> encounter:
>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fiss
>>>>>>> u
>>>>>>> e
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>>>>>>> r
>>>>>>> o
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>>>>>>> 7 c
>>>>>>> d011db47%7c1&sdata=oMjN7hq1FiR8YIr7tk6t4L8cG6FwAlCHVCiV7MYZdQs%3d
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I had to trim features and push it off to cordova-ios-5.0.x:
>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fiss
>>>>>>> u
>>>>>>> e
>>>>>>> s.apache.org%2fjira%2fsecure%2fRapidBoard.jspa%3frapidView%3d86&data
>>>>>>> =
>>>>>>> 0
>>>>>>> 1%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7c457cbbc8d60c461beede08d2b41fb286
>>>>>>> %
>>>>>>> 7
>>>>>>> c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=4N1dxtFBRjM%2fgJULVWBYLc
>>>>>>> 0
>>>>>>> Z
>>>>>>> NH7rJArJX5KlvDBqC68%3d
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Planned ship/vote date is around iOS 9 release time, which I
believe
>>>>>>> is in
>>>>>>> 2 weeks or so (mid Sept 2015).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Choo choo....
>>>>> 
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