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From Tommy-Carlos Williams <to...@devgeeks.org>
Subject Re: Plugin Audit 2015
Date Fri, 13 Nov 2015 20:48:58 GMT
It's not a "must have".  I have yet to use it in any of my projects. 

It can be very handy, and I am glad someone is maintaining it, but it's not required. 

> On 14 Nov 2015, at 06:29, Jesse <purplecabbage@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Okay. I'll back down then. I thought it was a 'must have' which to me dictates that we
'must have' a fork. 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 13, 2015, at 10:46 AM, Shazron <shazron@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I don't agree with keyboard being in core. It's not "required" on ios,
>> it's just a cosmetic change, and its pretty hacky to get right. With
>> iPad and iPad Pro's new enhanced keyboards, this will be a bigger
>> nightmare to maintain thus I am strongly against this.
>> 
>> With iOS 7 and greater's flat UI, the toolbar doesn't look that bad anyway.
>> 
>> As an example, Gmail iOS doesn't even bother trying to hide the
>> toolbar. Try to do a Search on it to see the keyboard. It uses a
>> WebView I believe for most of its UI.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 9:52 PM, Jesse <purplecabbage@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> The reason I think the keyboard should be core is that it is required on
>>> ios, and we are completely dependent on ionic to maintain it.  The license
>>> is Apache 2.0 so I think it would make the most sense for use to depend on
>>> a fork of our own and ask Ionic to continue to contribute to it.
>>> ( or review their future changes and pull into our branch when appropriate.
>>> )
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> @purplecabbage
>>> risingj.com
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Kerri Shotts <kerrishotts@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Yay, the audit happened! :-) So very cool. Not sure I agree with a couple
>>>> of the choices, but haven’t had the brain power to think through everything
>>>> yet.
>>>> 
>>>> If the keyboard plugin is going to remain managed by ionic, then I’d keep
>>>> it out of core, honestly. To me, “core” implies Apache-managed. Installed
>>>> by default, OTH, wouldn’t be a bad idea.
>>>> 
>>>> As for native dialogs, well… personally, I’m all for doing them in
>>>> HTML/CSS/JS. On the flip side, native dialogs can be a quick way to display
>>>> messages or get input. That said, I don’t think it needs to be a core
>>>> plugin. Perhaps spin it off into a third-party plugin and let the community
>>>> step up if they see the need.
>>>> 
>>>> @Parashuram: I have a native controls plugin for iOS. It needs some love,
>>>> though, which I plan on getting to once my book is done (almost!). I know
>>>> there are others out there too, but I’m not sure how many support Android.
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>>> From: Parashuram N <panarasi@microsoft.com>
>>>> Reply: dev@cordova.apache.org <dev@cordova.apache.org>
>>>> Date: November 10, 2015 at 11:23:17 AM
>>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org <dev@cordova.apache.org>
>>>> Subject:  Re: Plugin Audit 2015
>>>> 
>>>> I agree with Raymond on the ability to use native dialogs. I think I would
>>>> like to extend it beyond dialogs, and see if it is possible to use other
>>>> native controls too - like Sidebar, etc. I think they may not make sense
as
>>>> core plugins though. Supporting them for multiple platforms is hard. Maybe
>>>> someone could come up with a list of plugins that enable native controls
in
>>>> Cordova apps ?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 11/10/15, 6:25 AM, "Raymond Camden" <raymondcamden@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> "Globalization (make sync"
>>>>> 
>>>>> YES, YES, YES!
>>>>> 
>>>>> (Sorry, but that makes me *very* happy to hear!)
>>>>> 
>>>>> "Dialogs (Should use HTML/CS/JS dialogs instead)"
>>>>> 
>>>>> Strongly no, but I'm assuming there is a good reason for this beyond
>>>>> just what is listed in the parenthesis. Yes, UI frameworks normally
>>>>> have their own dialog widgets, but the fact that I can use a device
>>>>> standard dialog is a big plus for me. I'll even use it over Ionic's
>>>>> even when inside an Ionic app.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Steven Gill <stevengill97@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Jesse, Simon and I spent sometime doing a plugin audit. Our
>>>> recommendations
>>>>>> can be found at https://github.com/cordova/cordova-discuss/pull/28
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Overview:
>>>> https://github.com/stevengill/cordova-discuss/blob/master/proposals/PluginsAudit2015/overview.md
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Please give us feedback!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Steve
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>> 
>>>>> ===========================================================================
>>>>> Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate for MobileFirst at IBM
>>>>> 
>>>>> Email : raymondcamden@gmail.com
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>>>>> 
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