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From Parashuram N <panar...@microsoft.com>
Subject RE: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova developer survey
Date Tue, 06 Oct 2015 01:22:00 GMT
Looks like the URL had a dot at the end. Here is the URL that worked for me 

https://apachecordovabot.typeform.com/to/BCc5co

-----Original Message-----
From: Nikhil Khandelwal [mailto:nikhilkh@microsoft.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 5, 2015 3:21 PM
To: dev@cordova.apache.org
Subject: RE: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova developer survey

Thanks for all the input! Here's the final public facing URL: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fapachecordovabot.typeform.com%2fto%2fBCc5co.&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c86396d50c82d42e0359b08d2cdd34a0d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=9k5%2b3HCFfW%2fCVjQMMmPBSy71bM3lWMQJQifwyhF5dTs%3d


It will be great to get some of this data before the F2F meeting. Let's all tweet about it,
post it on slack etc.

In couple of days we can see if we can want to make more tweaks to this and then put out a
v2 on the cordova website as a banner. 

-Nikhil

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrey Kurdumov [mailto:kant2002@googlemail.com]
Sent: Saturday, October 3, 2015 10:42 PM
To: dev@cordova.apache.org
Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova developer survey

Would be good separate 4.a question "Documentation for the Cordova platforms and CLI" on two
separate questions.
Since I have different opinion on both of CLI and platform docs. CLI I would range on the
8 or 9 9 (nobody perfect), but platform docs are closer to 4 (need significant improvements)
for me.
Both are very strong feeling, and I have to or average results, or select which part is more
important for me.

2015-10-04 11:04 GMT+06:00 Carlos Santana <csantana23@gmail.com>:

> Yeah I like "released"
>
> Yeah no need to get usage info on this survey now.
>
> - Carlos
> Sent from my iPhone 6s
>
> > On Oct 4, 2015, at 12:51 AM, Jesse <purplecabbage@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Great feedback, you're right, I was thinking totally app-store-centric.
> > How about 'released' instead of 'published'?
> >
> > I'm not sure if usage info is relevant here, it is interesting no 
> > doubt, but I think the goal of this survey was to get info on making 
> > the app developer experience better. There is a multitude of 
> > non-cordova factors that affect usage; (price, design, app type, 
> > market competition, ... ) Personally I think usage stats are 
> > probably more relevant in the app showcase pages, or in another usage targeted survey.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > My team is hiring!
> > @purplecabbage
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=
> > 01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7ca0dc759ec823485986cc08d2cc7e942
> > 7%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=ygxQ5M9xh2NY%2fGKr5eM
> > EdWpaHVPZ5RrMFs6s6F0Yos4%3d
> >
> >> On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 3:40 AM, Carlos Santana 
> >> <csantana23@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> For the question on how many published, don't know if it will be 
> >> good to use a different word than "published". I personally 
> >> associate that with
> a
> >> App Store on quick read
> >>
> >> Most of our customers don't published their apps to a store, they 
> >> have them in production internally because they are business to 
> >> employee or business to business.
> >>
> >> What about using "apps currently in production" or "apps currently 
> >> being actively  user by users" or another term to be inclusive of 
> >> apps not
> being
> >> distributed by public store
> >>
> >> Another question, how many users using your app in a monthly basis? 
> >> Is that important to know how many users is the app being used by? 
> >> Like I
> have
> >> one app but that one app being downloaded 1,000 monthly and used by
> 50,000
> >> users :-)
> >>
> >> - Carlos
> >> Sent from my iPhone 6s
> >>
> >>> On Oct 3, 2015, at 3:34 AM, Jesse <purplecabbage@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I was able to update the survey.
> >>>
> >>> 1. I made some minor grammatical corrections and added some missing '?'
> >>> 2. Moved the 'What do you love/hate about cordova to the end"
> >>> 3. And added my plugins question. Which ones do you use?
> >>> 4. Also added Dave's 'would you recommend Cordova' question.
> >>>
> >>> Conceptually, I am having trouble with this one:
> >>> How far along are you in the development of your Cordova app?
> >>> I added a 'How many cordova apps have you published?' question as 
> >>> I
> think
> >>> it more relevant. Unfortunately we cannot make 'How far along ..'
> >>> conditional on 'How-many' being <1 because we are using the free
> version.
> >>>
> >>> I *expect* that we will see roughly half of respondents have 
> >>> published
> >> more
> >>> than 1 app, which would make the 'How far along...' question moot, 
> >>> but
> I
> >>> could be wrong.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> My team is hiring!
> >>> @purplecabbage
> >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&dat
> >>> a=01%7c01%7cnikhilkh%40microsoft.com%7ca0dc759ec823485986cc08d2cc7
> >>> e9427%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=ygxQ5M9xh2NY%2f
> >>> GKr5eMEdWpaHVPZ5RrMFs6s6F0Yos4%3d
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Parashuram N 
> >>> <panarasi@microsoft.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Sure, I guess we will have to create a new account and put the
> >> credentials
> >>>> in SVN, right ?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 10/1/15, 11:43 AM, "Jesse" <purplecabbage@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So, I was not able to log in and make the changes.
> >>>>> Can we change the typeform account login to not use google SSO?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> My team is hiring!
> >>>>> @purplecabbage
> >>>>
> >>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=01
> %7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c
> 72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=TXSgNNTM5c9GSN01I7SMlsCEWdB
> cdeQT%2bBSnLLUX5Mg%3d
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Dave Johnson <
> >> dave.c.johnson@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> we should also have an NPS question at the end of every survey

> >>>>>> sent
> >> out.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "how likely is it that you would recommend Apache Cordova to
a
> friend
> >> of
> >>>>>> colleague"
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Jesse 
> >>>>>>> <purplecabbage@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Yep, I'll do that.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> My team is hiring!
> >>>>>>> @purplecabbage
> >>>>
> >>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=01
> %7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c
> 72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=TXSgNNTM5c9GSN01I7SMlsCEWdB
> cdeQT%2bBSnLLUX5Mg%3d
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Parashuram N <
> >> panarasi@microsoft.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Jesse, did you mean I combine those options in the same
line ?
> Can I
> >>>>>>>> request you to edit the form directly ? May be quicker.
This 
> >>>>>>>> is at
> >>>>
> >>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=Typeform.com&data=0
> 1%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7
> c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=lvNH9UyN%2bfVF9%2fm9%2f6vD
> %2fQUrYtZNrPBLALmYJgw2DV0%3d
> >> ,
> >>>> and you can login via Google -
> >>>>>> apachecordovabot@gmail.com.
> >>>>>>>> Password in the SVN repo.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>> From: Jesse [mailto:purplecabbage@gmail.com]
> >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:40 PM
> >>>>>>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better
- 
> >>>>>>>> Cordova developer survey
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Something like this?
> >>>>>>>> ===
> >>>>>>>> Which of the following plugins do you use? Past or present,

> >>>>>>>> check
> >>>> all
> >>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>> apply :
> >>>>>>>> Battery StatusBar   Camera
> >>>>>>>> Console Contacts
> >>>>>>>> Device Device Motion (Accelerometer) Device Orientation
> >>>>>>>> (Compass) Dialogs FileSystem File Transfer Geolocation

> >>>>>>>> Globalization InAppBrowser Media Media Capture Network

> >>>>>>>> Information (Connection) Splashscreen
> >>>> Vibration
> >>>>>>>> StatusBar
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Is there a plugin that you wish existed? Or a third-party

> >>>>>>>> plugin
> >>>> that
> >>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>> use all the time?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> My team is hiring!
> >>>>>>>> @purplecabbage
> >>>>
> >>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=01
> %7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c972fcc7d0212468301c408d2c91ef8d4%7c
> 72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=KUV8islGByJhnuHjDSYxFYflQe5
> iKwFRqV%2fEdvsBXq0%3d
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Parashuram N <
> >>>> panarasi@microsoft.com>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I have not tweeted about it yet. I wanted to get
feedback 
> >>>>>>>>> from
> the
> >>>>>>>>> folks here - we are indeed getting good feedback.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> @Carlos, I have moved the open ended question to
the bottom.
> About
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> plugin question, I am waiting for Jesse's response.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>> From: Raymond Camden [mailto:raymondcamden@gmail.com]
> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:29 PM
> >>>>>>>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer
better - 
> >>>>>>>>> Cordova developer survey
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Have you tweeted about it yet? (Will help with an
RT.)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Carlos Santana
<
> >>>>>> csantana23@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> I'm with Joe on actionable items and with Jesse
on plugins area.
> >>>>>>>>>> What plugins you have used, which plugins have
giving you
> >>>> problems,
> >>>>>>>>>> how often do you upgrade platforms and plugins.
which 
> >>>>>>>>>> plugin you
> >>>>>> are
> >>>>>>>>>> always getting that you wish should be part
of cordova code 
> >>>>>>>>>> (i.e push notifications, bluetooth, oauth)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:00 PM Joe Bowser 
> >>>>>>>>>> <bowserj@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to make it the last question, and
I'd change it 
> >>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>> general
> >>>>>>>>>>> feedback.  Spinning it so negative will
just get negative
> >>>>>> responses
> >>>>>>>>>>> IMO. We can just read JIRA to get that.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Parashuram
N 
> >>>>>>>>>>> <panarasi@microsoft.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> @Joe - that is good feedback - I was
not sure about it
> >>>> myself.
> >>>>>> Do
> >>>>>>>>>>>> we want to just remove the first question
? The reason I
> >>>> kept it
> >>>>>>>>>>>> open ended was
> >>>>>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> see what things people really say. What
do you want to
> >>>> change it
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>> ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>>>>>> From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 1:49
PM
> >>>>>>>>>>>> To: dev <dev@cordova.apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova
developer better -
> >>>>>> Cordova
> >>>>>>>>>>>> developer survey
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> I think this is way too open ended.
 The first question
> >>>>>> shouldn't
> >>>>>>>>>>>> just be a giant area where users get
to talk about how 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> they
> >>>> hate
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the project, or the committers, or whatever.
 We get 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> enough
> >>>> of
> >>>>>>>>>>>> that already.  What we should do with
this survey is try 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> and narrow it down to actionable things
that we can 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> actually
> >>>> change.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Brian
LeRoux 
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <b@brian.io>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Surveys remind me of that Henry
Ford quote. Doesn't hurt
> >>>> to do
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> them but I would not take the responses
too seriously or 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> we will end up with a faster horse.
;) On Tue, Sep 29,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2015 at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 10:39 PM Parashuram N <panarasi@microsoft.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> We have had multiple discussions
on this mailing list
> >>>> about
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordova users and various issues
they have with Cordova.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> As we draw closer to the Cordova
Face to Face meeting, 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought it would be interesting
to try to get some 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> data
> >>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> understand our users better
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> when
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> we dive deeper into some of
the topics. To this end, as 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a first attempt,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> created a survey that we could
send out to developers 
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> who
> >>>>>> use
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordova for creating the apps.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The survey is available here
at
> >>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> f%
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2fapa
> >>>>
> >>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=checordovabot.typef
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> fS6DjacNk%2fQm0AvYXBelCV8ilFSi5tv20%3d
> >>>>>> %2fto%2fBCc5co.&data=01%7c01%7cpana
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ra
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> si%40
> >>>>
> >>
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=microsoft.com&data=
> 01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%
> 7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=1M7V4oFWEo8a8cg6WmVxwj59G
> ALumEl3ishqvbJFfU8%3d
> >>>>>> %7cf16a647c798e4578855f08d2c90f87ec%7c72f988bf86
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> f1
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 41af9
> >>>>>> 1ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=qBau%2fNlzJWgXOjrOfLslc0IRWEQOAD5Zu
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> OC
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> FG68P
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> daI%3d You can use the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> apachebot@gmail.com<mailto:apachebot@gmail.com>
> >>>> credentials
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (in
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> committer
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> SVN) to change the questions
or add more questions
> >>>> directly.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The aim here is to understand
how they use Cordova, and
> >>>> what
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> they like
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hate about it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you guys think about
doing this ?  - would this
> >>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> useful
> >>>>>>>>> ?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are there more questions we
would like to ask our
> >>>>>> developers ?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>
> ======================================================================
> >>>>>>>>> ===== Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate for MobileFirst
at 
> >>>>>>>>> IBM
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Email : raymondcamden@gmail.com Blog :
> >>>>>>
> >> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.raymondcamde
> >> n.c
> >>>>>>>>> om&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com
> >>>>>> %7c464fd58fcc5f43e6d42a08d2c
> >>>>>>
> 91d6108%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=ch01WhXlTxzF9nUje
> >>>>>>>>> T75IKEbzUxbvp2BtJtxxTPSLQI%3d
> >>>>>>>>> Twitter: raymondcamden
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