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From Carlos Santana <csantan...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] CORDOVA AND LIVERELOAD
Date Thu, 08 Oct 2015 16:38:27 GMT
Hi Omar
improvements are good direction.

How do I specify which files to watch or ignore?

Maybe by default it watches every file in www/**/*.*
But allow --livereload to take a value of glob/match ="www/js/*.*"

Another use case is the one that the browsersync plugin offers is to
specify ignore
by default watch everything but except --ignore=lib/**/*.*
https://github.com/nparashuram/cordova-plugin-browsersync#ignoring-files



On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 1:26 AM Mefire O. <ommenjik@microsoft.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the feedback, it was received.
>
> As follow up actions, I've done the following changes:
>
> - Changed things into a plugin
> - Added support for multiplatform support: `cordova run android ios
> --device -- --livereload`
> - Added the capability to mirror gestures: clicks, scrolls, form inputs
> - Made it so the user doesn't have to manually remove CSP anymore, it's
> done automatically
> - Cleaned up the code
> - Added ability to use '-- --livereload' flag, so no change is required in
> cordova-cli
>
> It would be great if you could provide further feedback:
> https://github.com/omefire/cordova-plugin-livereload
>
>
> Thanks,
> Mefire
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: brian.leroux@gmail.com [mailto:brian.leroux@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
> Brian LeRoux
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 11:59 AM
> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] CORDOVA AND LIVERELOAD
>
> also a -1 to core / most of the downstreams have livereload or hotreload
> baked into their respective frameworks
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Carlos Santana <csantana23@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > -1  to add to cordova-lib
> >
> > maybe to be a default plugin, but I'm with Jesse with this one lets
> > not add yet and lets be agile and iterate based on community feedback,
> >
> > there might be other better way to add the plugin than the default
> > template (i.e. cordova tool add livereload, etc..) lets see how it
> > goes for now
> >
> > Currently no a big fan of having the whitelist added by default, I
> > understand all the background from it but as high level view a plugin
> > is something you add is not something that comes included.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 1:44 PM Jesse <purplecabbage@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Personally, I would rather we didn't force it thru.
> > > We don't include cordova-plugin-console which is a huge ease-of-use
> > > improvement, and it is tiny, and more arguably should be built in.
> > > If we get through a few versions, and it proves popular, and is
> > > working well, I may change my mind, but I would rather soft launch
> > > it instead of suddenly springing new developer debt on the project.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > My team is hiring!
> > > @purplecabbage
> > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=
> > > 01%7c01%7commenjik%40microsoft.com%7ce21867b2bd9542b192c508d2ae486cb
> > > 0%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=zCcu7T0VKRwLqlr6BCXWN
> > > rPMZqbzuX4%2bcWaqD%2f9ej8c%3d
> > >
> > > On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Mefire O. <ommenjik@microsoft.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Also, to improve DISCOVERABILITY and EASE OF USE, I was thinking
> > > > about making the LiveReload tooling part of the default Cordova
> > > > experience by including the plugin in the default project template
> > > > or by it being in cordova-lib ( depending on what architectural
> choice we make).
> > > >
> > > > It would only be turned on by including the --livereload from the
> CLI.
> > > >
> > > > Any thoughts ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -
> > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fg
> > > > ithub.com%2fMSOpenTech%2fcordova-cli%2fcommits%2fLiveReload&data=0
> > > > 1%7c01%7commenjik%40microsoft.com%7ce21867b2bd9542b192c508d2ae486c
> > > > b0%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=gWu1DeX0p6PI%2b8zM
> > > > Cu76cMQgIsPfKrOlGUos3rhmFPo%3d
> > > > -
> > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fg
> > > > ithub.com%2fomefire%2fcordova-plugin-livereload&data=01%7c01%7comm
> > > > enjik%40microsoft.com%7ce21867b2bd9542b192c508d2ae486cb0%7c72f988b
> > > > f86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=vzLznF3YibCj0SXDV%2bGZeANhNjQF
> > > > jnMoLCbyfo76p0w%3d
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Mefire
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Mefire O. [mailto:ommenjik@microsoft.com]
> > > > Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 11:01 AM
> > > > To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> > > > Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] CORDOVA AND LIVERELOAD
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the feedback, guys.
> > > >
> > > > As a result of your comments, I've done the following changes :
> > > >
> > > > -  Pivoted towards a plugin-based architecture :
> > > >
> > >
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fgithu
> > b.com%2fomefire%2fcordova-plugin-livereload&data=01%7c01%7commenjik%40
> > microsoft.com%7ca5385b13d97b4d71e84f08d2acae110d%7c72f988bf86f141af91a
> > b2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=6YrzZ4dCG8FttPF150r%2f00G2gfB8%2fqGwLax41boeVo
> > 4%3d
> > > > - The plugin is going to be activated only when the '--livereload'
> > option
> > > > is passed to the CLI.
> > > > - I forgot to include the changes to cordova-cli to accommodate
> > > > the --livereload flag :
> > > >
> > >
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fgithu
> > b.com%2fMSOpenTech%2fcordova-cli%2fcommits%2fLiveReload&data=01%7c01%7
> > commenjik%40microsoft.com%7ca5385b13d97b4d71e84f08d2acae110d%7c72f988b
> > f86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=wLWcK7014onZyfFCfbI4PKGTcjBLHq2TWX
> > 8uGPzfZRs%3d
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Mefire
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Carlos Santana [mailto:csantana23@gmail.com]
> > > > Sent: Friday, August 21, 2015 5:28 PM
> > > > To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] CORDOVA AND LIVERELOAD
> > > >
> > > > This is so awesome, as working on a downstream I have being
> > > > debating if this is something I should add to my downstream.
> > > > I think this is standard stuff that cordova should enable but not
> > include
> > > > in core, it should be a plugin.
> > > >
> > > > maybe we should have a tag for  plugins that are only for tooling,
> > > meaning
> > > > that are easy to take out or ignore when building/running a
> > > > production
> > > app.
> > > > or be dormant until the "--livereload" is pass in the command line
> > > > for emulate or run.
> > > >
> > > > I really think BrowserSync is rad, and having a plugin implemented
> > > > by cordova is good as reference implementation if others want to
> > implement a
> > > > different one. but I think we can provide that satisfy the need of
> > > > most developers.
> > > >
> > > > But I think the cordova-cli should document and have some
> > > > convention support the developer to emulate/run with --livereload.
> > > > then  a plugin
> > > can
> > > > declare that it provides the livereload feature, and detect that
> > > > --livereload was pass do it's magic
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 5:14 PM Jesse <purplecabbage@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > This is really cool work, and will absolutely help developers.
> > > > > Personally, I prefer the plugin approach.
> > > > > Which library is chosen is entirely up to the plugin author, but
> > > > > I really like BrowserSync!
> > > > >
> > > > > In all cases, I believe it is important to try NOT to add
> > > > > features to cordova. The ultimate goal is have cordova be
> > > > > intrinsic to all device platforms, and the more things we build
> > > > > into cordova, the more difficult this becomes. Others may have
> > > > > different views, and I am anxious to hear them, but that is the
> way I have always looked at it.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > My team is hiring!
> > > > > @purplecabbage
> > > > >
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=01
> > > > > %7c01%7commenjik%40microsoft.com
> > %7c0cc1f1dff2144c1556fa08d2aa88a610%7c
> > > > >
> > 72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=ZDxBbaiDrRKHqVa7fRKQut47GEt
> > > > > cdR6r1kDZvZPTl6o%3d
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Mefire O.
> > > > > <ommenjik@microsoft.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Problem
> > > > > > Most Web developement workflows today have a quick
> > > > > > edit-refresh-preview loop, enabling rapid application
> development.
> > > > > > While Cordova is based on
> > > > > Web
> > > > > > technologies, the cordova run step after every little HTML or
> > > > > > CSS change
> > > > > is
> > > > > > still slow and takes a considerable amount of time to deploy
> > > > > > to the emulator or device.
> > > > > > Some livereload-related offerings :
> > > > > >
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fsco
> > > > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=tch.io&data
> > > > > > =01%7c01%7commenjik%40microsoft.com%7ce21867b2bd9542b192c508d2
> > > > > > ae486cb0%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=f5Ijck6y
> > > > > > gB4UUNWdbzql%2bY%2brYb3YF6HbNaBrWscu4qY%3d
> > %2ftutorials%2fa-quick-guide-to-using-livereload-with-gulp&dat
> > > > > > a=01%7c01%7commenjik%40microsoft.com
> > %7c0cc1f1dff2144c1556fa08d2aa88a
> > > > > >
> > 610%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=kFyIR7Q1nZljOSdc1HI
> > > > > > dhl6mgExcgIG0CVrGLHU%2fXew%3d
> > > > > .
> > > > > > Adding the "live reload" capability in Cordova would increase
> > > > > > developer efficiency. Note that varieties of LiveReload
> > > > > > already in many downstream Cordova distributions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Prototypes
> > > > > > Browsersync<
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%
> > > > > > 3a%2f%2fbrowsersync.io%2f&data=01%7c01%7commenjik%40microsoft.
> > > > > > com
> > %7c
> > > > > >
> > 0cc1f1dff2144c1556fa08d2aa88a610%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%
> > > > > > 7c1&sdata=TKcLau%2bk%2fRfQ2wGutlt4gspmxDMbTTa4ZRqLSBxKkCM%3d>
> > > > > > is a popular livereload library that enables refreshing the
> > > > > > browser/webview when HTML/CSS/JS or images change, mirrors
> > > > > > clicks and scrolls across multiple devices and even does
> > > > > > incremental CSS
> > or
> > > > > > DOM updates. Here is a prototype implementation<
> > > > > >
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fgit
> > > > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=hub.com&dat
> > > > > > a=01%7c01%7commenjik%40microsoft.com%7ce21867b2bd9542b192c508d
> > > > > > 2ae486cb0%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=LUwQuEW
> > > > > > qPMOlTJtFbN1jBhsM5r%2fZqd9uLx%2b8t3ZIeD8%3d
> > %2fMSOpenTech%2fcordova-lib%2fcommits%2fLiveReload&data=01%7c
> > > > > > 01%7commenjik%40microsoft.com
> > %7c0cc1f1dff2144c1556fa08d2aa88a610%7c7
> > > > > >
> > 2f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=qFVTL9IljD%2bCrsg%2bpkF8PD
> > > > > > %2fse%2bJUVcFAzZ5BWnCpVpk%3d> that I put together into
> > > > > > cordova-lib using BrowserSync and can be started easily
> > > > > using
> > > > > > --livereload with the cordova run command : `cordova run
> > > > > > android -livereload` An alternative approach here implements
a
> > > > > > similar functionality using a Cordova plugin<
> > > >
> > >
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fgithu
> > b.com%2faxemclion%2fcordova-plugin-browsersync&data=01%7c01%7commenjik
> > %40microsoft.com%7c0cc1f1dff2144c1556fa08d2aa88a610%7c72f988bf86f141af
> > 91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=zX7tQKxHoiw6AWowjzJIOeTo9xVj4qFF87sU2Nuirrg
> > %3d
> > > > >.
> > > > > > Here is another plugin<
> > > > > >
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fgit
> > > > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=hub.com&dat
> > > > > > a=01%7c01%7commenjik%40microsoft.com%7ce21867b2bd9542b192c508d
> > > > > > 2ae486cb0%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=LUwQuEW
> > > > > > qPMOlTJtFbN1jBhsM5r%2fZqd9uLx%2b8t3ZIeD8%3d
> > %2ffingerproof%2fcordova-plugin-gapreload&data=01%7c01%7comme
> > > > > > njik%40microsoft.com
> > %7c0cc1f1dff2144c1556fa08d2aa88a610%7c72f988bf86
> > > > > >
> > f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=qMT7cUIEh3XbP5RWaVpVuw20F2RtPnDXYT8
> > > > > > XT%2bS%2frzI%3d> that implements livereload using LiveReload<
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3
> > > > > > a%2f%2flivereload.com%2f&data=01%7c01%7commenjik%40microsoft.c
> > > > > > om
> > %7c0
> > > > > >
> > cc1f1dff2144c1556fa08d2aa88a610%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7
> > > > > > c1&sdata=d2sbj1khMnFHemoIM4aRZ3OzagVexcNNK9qr9qKFn6w%3d>
> > > > > > instead of
> > > > > browserSyc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Design Questions
> > > > > > What would be the best approach to add this functionality into
> > > Cordova
> > > > ?
> > > > > > 1. In cordova-lib as prototyped above ?
> > > > > > 2. As a Plugins with hooks that start browserSync?
> > > > > > 3. As a plugin with hooks that uses LiveReload ?
> > > > > > 4. A plugin that is a part of the default template 5. Any
> > > > > > other suggestions
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Trying to list the goals from our implementation
> > > > > >
> > > > > >   1.  Live reload should be discoverable, quick to get started
> > > > > > and easy
> > > > > to
> > > > > > use. It should be available to all developers in a standard
way.
> > > > > >   2.  It should integrate well with existing workflows and not
> > > > > > come in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > way of existing solutions that already have live reload.
> > > > > >   3.  It should work for most major platforms. Note that the
> > > > > > above examples change the <content src=> to a http://
server.
> > > > > > This has a different behavior from the default Cordova app.
> > > > > >   4.  Though the above examples depend on browsersync, there
> > > > > > are other equally good solutions like LiveReload, Amok, etc.
> > > > > > Should we depend on BrowserSync? Or will using a plugin
> > > > > > approach give us the flexibility of using alternate solutions
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here's a link to the corresponding cordova-discuss proposal
:
> > > > > >
> > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fgit
> > > > > > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=hub.com&dat
> > > > > > a=01%7c01%7commenjik%40microsoft.com%7ce21867b2bd9542b192c508d
> > > > > > 2ae486cb0%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=LUwQuEW
> > > > > > qPMOlTJtFbN1jBhsM5r%2fZqd9uLx%2b8t3ZIeD8%3d
> > %2fomefire%2fcordova-discuss%2fcommits%2fLiveReload&data=01%7
> > > > > > c01%7commenjik%40microsoft.com
> > %7c0cc1f1dff2144c1556fa08d2aa88a610%7c
> > > > > >
> > 72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=PKJALeV0NmgPckU9s0CYv0BsY
> > > > > > 5XZBNLKCvBFjyIWqa0%3d
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Mefire
> > > > > >
> > > > >
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