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From Dmitry Blotsky <dblot...@microsoft.com>
Subject Re: Cordova website redesign
Date Tue, 13 Oct 2015 02:20:08 GMT
The new typeface and a few other minor visual tweaks are up!

Kindly,
Dmitry

> On Oct 12, 2015, at 3:16 PM, Raymond Camden <raymondcamden@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> +1 here too.
> 
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 1:46 PM, Jesse <purplecabbage@gmail.com> wrote:
>> This sounds more like consensus!
>> I too am +1 on changing the typeface.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>>  Jesse
>> 
>>> On Oct 8, 2015, at 11:02 AM, Parashuram N <panarasi@microsoft.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> +1 on the typeface - I think it does send the “modern-ness” message.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 10/8/15, 10:39 AM, "Carlos Santana" <csantana23@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> + 1 on the typeface
>>>> leave the logo as it is today (3d, gray, etc..)
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 12:26 AM Steven Gill <stevengill97@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> +1
>>>>>> On Oct 7, 2015 9:15 PM, "Brian LeRoux" <b@brian.io> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Well said, and ya updated typeface looks slick. 👍
>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 6:10 PM Ryan J. Salva <rsalva@microsoft.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm personally a big fan of Ben's proposal. The typography really
>>>>> stands
>>>>>>> out and gives the brand a strong, updated and modern presence.
I know
>>>>>>> there's a lot of pride in the heritage of the logo, and for that
>>>>> reason I
>>>>>>> wouldn't dream of losing our beloved robot. However, the typography
is
>>>>> a
>>>>>>> different story.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Is it absolutely necessary? Well... that really depends on your
>>>>>>> perspective. From talking with many of you and other developers
at
>>>>>>> conferences and events over the past year, I've heard a repeating
theme
>>>>>>> that Cordova has a public-perception problem. A typography update
won't
>>>>>>> change that perception by itself, but it will demonstrate that
Cordova
>>>>>>> isn't staying still... that the project is evolving, growing
and
>>>>>> improving.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> </mytwocents>
>>>>>>> rjs
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ryan J. Salva  |  Principal Program Manager Lead
>>>>>>> Visual Studio Tools for Apache Cordova
>>>>>>> rsalva@microsoft.com
>>>>>>> 206 612 5079 mobile
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Tommy-Carlos Williams [mailto:tommy@devgeeks.org]
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2015 12:21 PM
>>>>>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Cordova website redesign
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yeah... I kinda fell into the "not sure, wait and see what others
>>>>>> thought"
>>>>>>> category on this one.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I would also like more discussion unless everyone really has
no
>>>>> opinion.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 8 Oct 2015, at 05:42, Jesse <purplecabbage@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I would suggest that the lack of response on the logo change
means we
>>>>>>> don't need it.
>>>>>>>> I think there should at least be some discussion before moving
on it.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 11:31 AM, Brad Gashler <bradga@microsoft.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I wanted to follow up on the branding changes proposed
by Ben Sperry
>>>>>>> (his email is included below).
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I’m planning on implementing his changes, since no
objections were
>>>>>>> raised.  This includes the new logo, with its modern typeface,
as shown
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> picture A below.  Also, we may replace the background image with
the
>>>>>> simple
>>>>>>> gradient as shown in picture B below.  Please let me know if
there are
>>>>>> any
>>>>>>> concerns replacing this background image.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Brad Gashler
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> A) New logo only
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> B) New logo and new gradient background
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: Ben Sperry [mailto:ben@ionic.io]
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 1:17 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Cordova website redesign
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I really like where this update is going, and what it
signals to the
>>>>>>>>> community: Cordova is a legitimate, modern tech solution
that's
>>>>> still
>>>>>>> very much alive and growing. The website look/feel has a lot
of
>>>>>> confidence,
>>>>>>> love it!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I'm curious what thoughts are around a Cordova logo update
itself. I
>>>>>>>>> put together a version that I thought might support the
evolution of
>>>>>>>>> Cordova into a more modern looking brand. Would love
feedback on
>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>> early logo update mockup: regular
>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fioni
>>>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=c-io-assets.s3.amazonaws.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c60f8e63b1c9a46d5e95208d2d00785b0%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=r7JctK6wY1QhZ2GZNlumefajI4vAGiseq9LrehDxEPQ%3d
>>>>> %2fcordova%2fcordova-logo-3d-proposal.png
>>>>>>>>> &data=01%7c01%7cbradga%40microsoft.com
>>>>> %7c46d14102d64c4e5de06408d2c51d
>>>>> 409d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=oKVaCThqWbhTgak3efA
>>>>>>>>> aM%2f3f1d1wGyqazXPdboZjsAk%3d>
>>>>>>>>> / flat
>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fioni
>>>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=c-io-assets.s3.amazonaws.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c60f8e63b1c9a46d5e95208d2d00785b0%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=r7JctK6wY1QhZ2GZNlumefajI4vAGiseq9LrehDxEPQ%3d
>>>>> %2fcordova%2fcordova-logo-flat-proposal.p
>>>>>>>>> ng&data=01%7c01%7cbradga%40microsoft.com
>>>>> %7c46d14102d64c4e5de06408d2c5
>>>>> 1d409d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=vyJ80acz9%2bDPk4Y
>>>>>>>>> ZuidiCPknjl%2fwOCKN7KMyxem5jJg%3d>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> A few things to note: The typeface is really the big
update - the
>>>>>>> little robot logo itself can stay the same (because he is awesome).
The
>>>>>>> existing typeface is just plain-old Helvetica, which is totally
fine,
>>>>> but
>>>>>>> can sometimes feel empty of any personality or uniqueness. My
>>>>> suggestion
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> simply to update it to a more contemporary, custom typeface (in
this
>>>>>> case,
>>>>>>> Brandon Text <
>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fhvdfonts.com%2fbrandontext%2f&data=01%7c01%7cbradga%40microsoft.com%7c46d14102d64c4e5de06408d2c51d409d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=qFtGPbwutLEDyHils6NLuVjZrmSedM%2bPAM%2fv42v1E4s%3d
>>>>>>>> ).
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Would love to hear any and all thoughts on this!
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Frederico Galvão
<
>>>>>>> frederico.galvao@pontoget.com.br> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Looks great indeed, nice job!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> One thing I noticed is that
>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f%2fpro
>>>>>>>>>> je
>>>>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=cts.apache.org&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c60f8e63b1c9a46d5e95208d2d00785b0%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=lVvO3PkmcJVdQB0dgvNo5cbNePQbnHaDypcxs6A4RWI%3d
>>>>> %2fproject.html%3fcordova&data=01%7c01%7cbradga%40micr
>>>>>>>>>> os
>>>>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=oft.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c60f8e63b1c9a46d5e95208d2d00785b0%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=77v5pCW0ra6Nb%2fuNbIcqQq41RU462BlgTtfHQYaFOho%3d
>>>>> %7c46d14102d64c4e5de06408d2c51d409d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7
>>>>>>>>>> cd 011db47%7c1&sdata=ZeVerioKs9Eu8faVlumAOu0bmmXPyqq6tJ5gsXU2KNM%3d
>>>>>>>>>> seems very outdated.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 2015-09-23 22:49 GMT-03:00 Carlos Santana <csantana23@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> This looks great.
>>>>>>>>>>> Can you add a sub page link in the navigation
column to this page?
>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%2fcord
>>>>>>>>>> ov
>>>>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=a.apache.org&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c60f8e63b1c9a46d5e95208d2d00785b0%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=rLJ9p20Bvow5ZrbWSINMTOtrvxMn1TYxdGAso%2f5Udhg%3d
>>>>> %2fuse-the-force-luke%2fdocs%2fen%2fedge%2fplugin_ref%2f
>>>>>>>>>> sp
>>>>>>>>>> ec.html&data=01%7c01%7cbradga%40microsoft.com
>>>>> %7c46d14102d64c4e5de064
>>>>>>>>>> 08
>>>>> d2c51d409d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=Ng%2fQbCHank
>>>>>>>>>> Wf qNC%2fx9Xsaj1OxfSkoMhaH97WmznRfeI%3d
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 7:50 PM Anis KADRI
<anis.kadri@gmail.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Waw. It looks really really nice! Thanks
so much for taking care
>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 2:45 PM Shazron
<shazron@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you for doing this, the site is
great!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The community will love this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Ryan
J. Salva <
>>>>>>>>>> ryanjsalva@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TLDR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Feedback requested for a proposed
Cordova website redesign
>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2fcordova.apache.org%2fuse-the-force-luke&data=01%7c01%7cbradg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a%40microsoft.com%7c46d14102d64c4e5de06408d2c51d409d%7c72f988b
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> f86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=WfhsLEijWdilHq7RBNF6%2fGuf
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> qZSOVs661NnN2MM7uvU%3d
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- The redesign was influenced by
interviews with 300+ mobile
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> developers. From these conversations,
we identified six top
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> level
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> goals:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Establish that Cordova is an active
project relevant to
>>>>>>>>>> developers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in 2016 (the future!)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Show the potential of hybrid apps
by highlighting some rock
>>>>>>>>>>>>> star-quality apps
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Demonstrate critical mass by sharing
a diverse set of tools
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and businesses that have “made
a bet” on Cordova
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Improve developer’s first experience
with Cordova by adding
>>>>>>>>>> quick
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start instructions and explanatory
text for key concepts (e.g.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plugins)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. Increase community participation
by raising the visibility
>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> public forums (e.g. Slack, StackOverflow,
Twitter)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6. Maintain consistency with the
current website (i.e.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> branding and content parity)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---- The long read ----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Grab a cup of coffee. This is a long
one.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As some of you may know, several
committers from the Seattle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> area (including Nikhil, Parashuram
and I) have just completed a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long
>>>>>>>>>>> series
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of interviews with mobile developers.
In the past three months,
>>>>>>>>>> I’ve
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> personally interviewed over 100 developers.
The team has
>>>>>>>>>> collectively
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interviewed closer to 300. We learned
a lot and hope to share a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> summary (with infographics!) of our
insights soon. In the
>>>>>>>>>> meantime, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to share one of the more poignant
quotes from one
>>>>> interview.
>>>>>>>>>>> When
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> asked, “How can we make your job
easier?”, one Cordova
>>>>> developer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> responded:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “Take the stigma away from hybrid
development. I can prove that
>>>>>>>>>> it’s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the right tool for the job, but I
have to prove it
>>>>> over-and-over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again. I wish that I didn’t have
to have the same conversation
>>>>>>>>>> every
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time I want to use Cordova with a
new manager or client.” --
>>>>>>>>>> Murali,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordova Developer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There are lots of ways to solve this
problem, but one of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> easier and more visible ways is through
Cordova’s front-door.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Cordova website has served us
well for the last 5+ years,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but I believe a redesign could help
us address some pain points
>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> the community.
>>>>>>>>>> To
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put it simply, we have a public perception
problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “It’s hard to argue for Cordova
when there are few examples of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it being successfully used.” --
Gary, Ionic Developer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Developers and architects are looking
for examples of good
>>>>>>>>>>> development
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to prove that high-quality, fast
apps are possible. So, we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might be good to highlight some rock
star-quality apps on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> home page. Anyone can submit a PR
to add their app so long as
>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appears
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a public store and uses Cordova.
If the list of apps gets too
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long (and it will), then we’ll
randomize display. The same is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> true for a list of tools and platforms
that build on top of
>>>>>>> Cordova.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “There are so many layers to cross-platform
development, it’s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hard
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know how they all fit together. It’s
even harder to know if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you’re missing a critical piece.”
-- Mike, Cordova Developer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By itself, the website redesign won’t
address this problem. We
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need some good architectural docs
that not only illustrate how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordova works, but also how it integrates
with the larger
>>>>>>> ecosystem (e.g.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Crosswalk). However, we’re also
hoping that by adding a little
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more “hand-holding” on the site,
we can help developers achieve
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> success faster. For example, we provide
simple instructions for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “Getting Started” on the home
page. And, on the Plugins page,
>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provide a quick explanation of plugins’
role in Cordova
>>>>>>> development.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> “It’s not clear where I can go
for support.” -- Geoff, Cordova
>>>>>>>>>>>> Developer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay…  none of us want to provide
customer support for the
>>>>> whole
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community, but I want to make it
easy for people to find the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community. To that end, our goal
was to integrate prominent
>>>>>>>>>> pointers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to all the places where our community
aggregates – e.g. Slack,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> StackOverflow, JIRA and mailing list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Change for the sake of change is…
well, for people with more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> their hands than me, but this seems
like the right time for a
>>>>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the Cordova website. There’s
a compelling developer need and
>>>>>>>>>>> little
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> risk in making the change.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Barring any grievous concerns, I'd
love to get the new site
>>>>>>>>>> launched
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ASAP. If we need to make small changes
after launch, it will be
>>>>>>>>>> easy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to iterate. If you see any bugs that
need to be fixed, please
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file them here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2f
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> %2fissues.apache.org%2fjira%2fbrowse%2fCB%2fcomponent%2f123205
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 62%2f&data=01%7c01%7cbradga%40microsoft.com%7c46d14102d64c4e5d
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e06408d2c51d409d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cqI15afm9l5RsQ0Oz9sg8EHqsUK6p2ESn8HyfhHFAq0%3d
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I open the floor to discussion ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3a%2f%
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2fcordova.apache.org%2fuse-the-force-luke&data=01%7c01%7cbradg
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a%40microsoft.com%7c46d14102d64c4e5de06408d2c51d409d%7c72f988b
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> qZSOVs661NnN2MM7uvU%3d
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ryan J. Salva
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>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Diretor de Tecnologia
>>>>>>>>>> 
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