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From Carlos Santana <csantan...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova developer survey
Date Sat, 03 Oct 2015 10:40:36 GMT
For the question on how many published, don't know if it will be good to use a different word
than "published". I personally associate that with a App Store on quick read

Most of our customers don't published their apps to a store, they have them in production
internally because they are business to employee or business to business. 

What about using "apps currently in production" or "apps currently being actively  user by
users" or another term to be inclusive of apps not being distributed by public store

Another question, how many users using your app in a monthly basis? Is that important to know
how many users is the app being used by? Like I have one app but that one app being downloaded
1,000 monthly and used by 50,000 users :-)

- Carlos
Sent from my iPhone 6s

> On Oct 3, 2015, at 3:34 AM, Jesse <purplecabbage@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I was able to update the survey.
> 
> 1. I made some minor grammatical corrections and added some missing '?'
> 2. Moved the 'What do you love/hate about cordova to the end"
> 3. And added my plugins question. Which ones do you use?
> 4. Also added Dave's 'would you recommend Cordova' question.
> 
> Conceptually, I am having trouble with this one:
> How far along are you in the development of your Cordova app?
> I added a 'How many cordova apps have you published?' question as I think
> it more relevant. Unfortunately we cannot make 'How far along ..'
> conditional on 'How-many' being <1 because we are using the free version.
> 
> I *expect* that we will see roughly half of respondents have published more
> than 1 app, which would make the 'How far along...' question moot, but I
> could be wrong.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> My team is hiring!
> @purplecabbage
> risingj.com
> 
> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Parashuram N <panarasi@microsoft.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Sure, I guess we will have to create a new account and put the credentials
>> in SVN, right ?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 10/1/15, 11:43 AM, "Jesse" <purplecabbage@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So, I was not able to log in and make the changes.
>>> Can we change the typeform account login to not use google SSO?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My team is hiring!
>>> @purplecabbage
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=TXSgNNTM5c9GSN01I7SMlsCEWdBcdeQT%2bBSnLLUX5Mg%3d
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Dave Johnson <dave.c.johnson@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> we should also have an NPS question at the end of every survey sent out.
>>>> 
>>>> "how likely is it that you would recommend Apache Cordova to a friend of
>>>> colleague"
>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Jesse <purplecabbage@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yep, I'll do that.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> My team is hiring!
>>>>> @purplecabbage
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=TXSgNNTM5c9GSN01I7SMlsCEWdBcdeQT%2bBSnLLUX5Mg%3d
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Parashuram N <panarasi@microsoft.com
>>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jesse, did you mean I combine those options in the same line ? Can
I
>>>>>> request you to edit the form directly ? May be quicker. This is at
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=Typeform.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=lvNH9UyN%2bfVF9%2fm9%2f6vD%2fQUrYtZNrPBLALmYJgw2DV0%3d,
>> and you can login via Google -
>>>> apachecordovabot@gmail.com.
>>>>>> Password in the SVN repo.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Jesse [mailto:purplecabbage@gmail.com]
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:40 PM
>>>>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova
>>>>>> developer survey
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Something like this?
>>>>>> ===
>>>>>> Which of the following plugins do you use? Past or present, check
>> all
>>>>> that
>>>>>> apply :
>>>>>> Battery StatusBar   Camera
>>>>>> Console Contacts
>>>>>> Device Device Motion (Accelerometer)
>>>>>> Device Orientation (Compass) Dialogs
>>>>>> FileSystem File Transfer
>>>>>> Geolocation Globalization
>>>>>> InAppBrowser Media
>>>>>> Media Capture Network Information (Connection) Splashscreen
>> Vibration
>>>>>> StatusBar
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is there a plugin that you wish existed? Or a third-party plugin
>> that
>>>> you
>>>>>> use all the time?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My team is hiring!
>>>>>> @purplecabbage
>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=risingj.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c972fcc7d0212468301c408d2c91ef8d4%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=KUV8islGByJhnuHjDSYxFYflQe5iKwFRqV%2fEdvsBXq0%3d
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Parashuram N <
>> panarasi@microsoft.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have not tweeted about it yet. I wanted to get feedback from
the
>>>>>>> folks here - we are indeed getting good feedback.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> @Carlos, I have moved the open ended question to the bottom.
About
>>>> the
>>>>>>> plugin question, I am waiting for Jesse's response.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Raymond Camden [mailto:raymondcamden@gmail.com]
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 3:29 PM
>>>>>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer better - Cordova
>>>>>>> developer survey
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Have you tweeted about it yet? (Will help with an RT.)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Carlos Santana <
>>>> csantana23@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I'm with Joe on actionable items and with Jesse on plugins
area.
>>>>>>>> What plugins you have used, which plugins have giving you
>> problems,
>>>>>>>> how often do you upgrade platforms and plugins. which plugin
you
>>>> are
>>>>>>>> always getting that you wish should be part of cordova code
(i.e
>>>>>>>> push notifications, bluetooth, oauth)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 5:00 PM Joe Bowser <bowserj@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I'd like to make it the last question, and I'd change
it to
>>>> general
>>>>>>>>> feedback.  Spinning it so negative will just get negative
>>>> responses
>>>>>>>>> IMO. We can just read JIRA to get that.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Parashuram N
>>>>>>>>> <panarasi@microsoft.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> @Joe - that is good feedback - I was not sure about
it
>> myself.
>>>> Do
>>>>>>>>>> we want to just remove the first question ? The reason
I
>> kept it
>>>>>>>>>> open ended was
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> see what things people really say. What do you want
to
>> change it
>>>>> to
>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 1:49 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: dev <dev@cordova.apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Understanding the Cordova developer
better -
>>>> Cordova
>>>>>>>>>> developer survey
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I think this is way too open ended.  The first question
>>>> shouldn't
>>>>>>>>>> just be a giant area where users get to talk about
how they
>> hate
>>>>>>>>>> the project, or the committers, or whatever.  We
get enough
>> of
>>>>>>>>>> that already.  What we should do with this survey
is try and
>>>>>>>>>> narrow it down to actionable things that we can actually
>> change.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Surveys remind me of that Henry Ford quote. Doesn't
hurt
>> to do
>>>>>>>>>>> them but I would not take the responses too seriously
or we
>>>>>>>>>>> will end up with a faster horse. ;) On Tue, Sep
29, 2015 at
>>>>>>>>>>> 10:39 PM Parashuram N <panarasi@microsoft.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> We have had multiple discussions on this
mailing list
>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordova users and various issues they have
with Cordova.
>>>>>>>>>>>> As we draw closer to the Cordova Face to
Face meeting, I
>>>>>>>>>>>> thought it would be interesting to try to
get some data
>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> understand our users better
>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>> we dive deeper into some of the topics. To
this end, as a
>>>>>>>>>>>> first attempt,
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> created a survey that we could send out to
developers who
>>>> use
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordova for creating the apps.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> The survey is available here at
>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3a%2
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>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=checordovabot.typeform.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=gMdI86p5L%2ffS6DjacNk%2fQm0AvYXBelCV8ilFSi5tv20%3d
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>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=microsoft.com&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com%7c0bfbaed69bcc4357faa208d2ca90301d%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=1M7V4oFWEo8a8cg6WmVxwj59GALumEl3ishqvbJFfU8%3d
>>>> %7cf16a647c798e4578855f08d2c90f87ec%7c72f988bf86
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>>>>>>>>>>>> daI%3d You can use the
>>>>>>>>>>>> apachebot@gmail.com<mailto:apachebot@gmail.com>
>> credentials
>>>>>>>>>>>> (in
>>>>>>>>>>> committer
>>>>>>>>>>>> SVN) to change the questions or add more
questions
>> directly.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> The aim here is to understand how they use
Cordova, and
>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>> they like
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> hate about it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> What do you guys think about doing this ?
 - would this
>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>> useful
>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Are there more questions we would like to
ask our
>>>> developers ?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --
>>>> ======================================================================
>>>>>>> ===== Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate for MobileFirst at IBM
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Email : raymondcamden@gmail.com
>>>>>>> Blog :
>>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=www.raymondcamden.c
>>>>>>> om&data=01%7c01%7cpanarasi%40microsoft.com
>>>> %7c464fd58fcc5f43e6d42a08d2c
>>>> 91d6108%7c72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7c1&sdata=ch01WhXlTxzF9nUje
>>>>>>> T75IKEbzUxbvp2BtJtxxTPSLQI%3d
>>>>>>> Twitter: raymondcamden
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