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From Frederico Galvão <frederico.gal...@pontoget.com.br>
Subject Re: Cordova website redesign
Date Thu, 24 Sep 2015 18:25:27 GMT
Looks great indeed, nice job!

One thing I noticed is that https://projects.apache.org/project.html?cordova
seems very outdated.

2015-09-23 22:49 GMT-03:00 Carlos Santana <csantana23@gmail.com>:

> This looks great.
> Can you add a sub page link in the navigation column to this page?
>
>
> http://cordova.apache.org/use-the-force-luke/docs/en/edge/plugin_ref/spec.html
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 7:50 PM Anis KADRI <anis.kadri@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Waw. It looks really really nice! Thanks so much for taking care of this.
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 2:45 PM Shazron <shazron@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you for doing this, the site is great!
> > > The community will love this.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Ryan J. Salva <ryanjsalva@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > TLDR
> > > >
> > > > -- Feedback requested for a proposed Cordova website redesign at
> > > > http://cordova.apache.org/use-the-force-luke
> > > >
> > > > -- The redesign was influenced by interviews with 300+ mobile
> > > > developers. From these conversations, we identified six top level
> > > > goals:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Establish that Cordova is an active project relevant to developers
> > > > in 2016 (the future!)
> > > >
> > > > 2. Show the potential of hybrid apps by highlighting some rock
> > > star-quality apps
> > > >
> > > > 3. Demonstrate critical mass by sharing a diverse set of tools and
> > > > businesses that have “made a bet” on Cordova
> > > >
> > > > 4. Improve developer’s first experience with Cordova by adding quick
> > > > start instructions and explanatory text for key concepts (e.g.
> > > > plugins)
> > > >
> > > > 5. Increase community participation by raising the visibility of
> > > > public forums (e.g. Slack, StackOverflow, Twitter)
> > > >
> > > > 6. Maintain consistency with the current website (i.e. branding and
> > > > content parity)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ---- The long read ----
> > > >
> > > > Grab a cup of coffee. This is a long one.
> > > >
> > > > As some of you may know, several committers from the Seattle area
> > > > (including Nikhil, Parashuram and I) have just completed a long
> series
> > > > of interviews with mobile developers. In the past three months, I’ve
> > > > personally interviewed over 100 developers. The team has collectively
> > > > interviewed closer to 300. We learned a lot and hope to share a
> > > > summary (with infographics!) of our insights soon. In the meantime, I
> > > > want to share one of the more poignant quotes from one interview.
> When
> > > > asked, “How can we make your job easier?”, one Cordova developer
> > > > responded:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > “Take the stigma away from hybrid development. I can prove that it’s
> > > > the right tool for the job, but I have to prove it over-and-over
> > > > again. I wish that I didn’t have to have the same conversation every
> > > > time I want to use Cordova with a new manager or client.” -- Murali,
> > > > Cordova Developer
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > There are lots of ways to solve this problem, but one of the easier
> > > > and more visible ways is through Cordova’s front-door. The Cordova
> > > > website has served us well for the last 5+ years, but I believe a
> > > > redesign could help us address some pain points in the community. To
> > > > put it simply, we have a public perception problem.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > “It’s hard to argue for Cordova when there are few examples of it
> > > > being successfully used.” -- Gary, Ionic Developer
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Developers and architects are looking for examples of good
> development
> > > > to prove that high-quality, fast apps are possible. So, we thought it
> > > > might be good to highlight some rock star-quality apps on the home
> > > > page. Anyone can submit a PR to add their app so long as it appears
> in
> > > > a public store and uses Cordova. If the list of apps gets too long
> > > > (and it will), then we’ll randomize display. The same is true for a
> > > > list of tools and platforms that build on top of Cordova.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > “There are so many layers to cross-platform development, it’s hard
to
> > > > know how they all fit together. It’s even harder to know if you’re
> > > > missing a critical piece.” -- Mike, Cordova Developer
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > By itself, the website redesign won’t address this problem. We need
> > > > some good architectural docs that not only illustrate how Cordova
> > > > works, but also how it integrates with the larger ecosystem (e.g.
> > > > Crosswalk). However, we’re also hoping that by adding a little more
> > > > “hand-holding” on the site, we can help developers achieve success
> > > > faster. For example, we provide simple instructions for “Getting
> > > > Started” on the home page. And, on the Plugins page, we provide a
> > > > quick explanation of plugins’ role in Cordova development.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > “It’s not clear where I can go for support.” -- Geoff, Cordova
> > Developer
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Okay…  none of us want to provide customer support for the whole
> > > > community, but I want to make it easy for people to find the
> > > > community. To that end, our goal was to integrate prominent pointers
> > > > to all the places where our community aggregates – e.g. Slack,
> > > > StackOverflow, JIRA and mailing list.
> > > >
> > > > Change for the sake of change is… well, for people with more time on
> > > > their hands than me, but this seems like the right time for a change
> > > > to the Cordova website. There’s a compelling developer need and
> little
> > > > risk in making the change.
> > > >
> > > > Barring any grievous concerns, I'd love to get the new site launched
> > > > ASAP. If we need to make small changes after launch, it will be easy
> > > > to iterate. If you see any bugs that need to be fixed, please file
> > > > them here:
> > > >
> > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB/component/12320562/
> > > >
> > > > I open the floor to discussion ;-)
> > > >
> > > > http://cordova.apache.org/use-the-force-luke
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > Ryan J. Salva
> > > >
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