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From Shazron <shaz...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: "Best" place to browse plugins
Date Tue, 02 Jun 2015 03:38:10 GMT
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On Monday, June 1, 2015, Great Courses <ttccourses@gmail.com> wrote:

> plz can you all remove me from the list. you all are doing great work, am
> not that smart or deserve to be in this intelligent group.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Joerg Holz <holz@hamburg.de
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','holz@hamburg.de');>> wrote:
>
>> I’m a cordova developer.
>>
>> The idea to move the plugins to npm was a very bad one. No professional
>> description, no professional searching.
>>
>> From a developer view, there is a need to have an overview off all
>> plugins - just for inspiration There is a need to have a filter for
>> platforms, the maintainer, last update, … and the most important and
>> complicated one: Is the plugin checked, checked for platform, checked for
>> version?
>>
>>
>> Have you ever tried to bring a three wheel selector in a cordova
>> application? That is a great job. Sorry for posting a screenshot, but this
>> simple wheeler took me one week for working on iOS, Android and Windows.
>>
>> I tried every plugin, every modification of every plugin, I split the
>> platforms … in the end I used mobiscroll and rewrote it for my needs. Just
>> for selecting a timespan.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cordova is great, the most important job for the future is: Let give the
>> people the power of cordova by good plugins.
>>
>>
>> Jörg
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 29.05.2015 um 02:55 schrieb Gorkem Ercan <gorkem.ercan@gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','gorkem.ercan@gmail.com');>>:
>>
>>
>>
>> On 28 May 2015, at 19:41, Murat Sutunc wrote:
>>
>> I had some free time today and started working on a plugin search
>> prototype. Currently it doesn't offer much but it's very similar to what
>> Gulp has.
>>
>> GH: https://github.com/muratsu/cordova-plugin-search
>> Imgur (can't add images to mails :( ): http://imgur.com/sX8oFcJ
>>
>> One problem I've run into is discoverability. Currently we're using the
>> keyword `ecosystem:cordova` with all of the plugins. Ecosystem is a wider
>> term than plugins and will most likely contain irrelevant search results.
>>
>> It does, I use it and at least all the cordova-platforms appear on the
>> results.
>>
>>
>> I was hoping that we switch to using `cordova-plugin` or `cordovaplugin`
>> keyword going forward for better discoverability. Also for comparison,
>> yeoman uses `yeoman-generator`, gulp uses `gulpplugin` and grunt uses
>> `gruntplugin`. Thoughts?
>>
>>
>> +1.  I guess there is no way to add them for all the existing plugins
>> though.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Steven Gill [mailto:stevengill97@gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','stevengill97@gmail.com');>]
>> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 3:35 PM
>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dev@cordova.apache.org');>
>> Cc: Tommy-Carlos Williams
>> Subject: Re: "Best" place to browse plugins
>>
>> npm does have a plan to improve their ecosystem + communities later this
>> year. We will essentially get a portal for cordova on npmjs.
>>
>> I also agree in turning plugins.cordova.io into a Gulp & Yeoman style
>> search page. Probably won't be doing that until our current registry is
>> shut down I imagine.
>>
>> On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 7:42 AM, Kerri Shotts <kerrishotts@gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kerrishotts@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>
>> +1
>>
>> I've used both Gulp & Yeoman's search, and prefer both to NPM
>> (although it's not difficult to be better than NPM's search).
>>
>> I also think close association with the brand and site are important.
>> For those users who don't know about Node & NPM yet, it's quickly
>> apparent that there's a large community creating plugins for Cordova,
>> and for everyone else, we have a URL that helps reinforce the Cordova
>> name. NPM would still be canonical, of course.
>>
>> (Now if NPM improved their search and did some nice work around
>> ecosystems, perhaps the above wouldn't be necessary. But I'm not going
>> to hold my breath...)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 27, 2015 at 8:19:35 AM, Tommy-Carlos Williams
>> (tommy@devgeeks.org <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tommy@devgeeks.org');>)
>> wrote:
>>
>> +1
>>
>>
>>
>> On 26 May 2015, at 21:44, Carlos Santana <csantana23@gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','csantana23@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>
>> I would like to see plugin.cordova.io be a page easy to search and
>>
>> filter
>>
>> cordova plugins just like gulp [1], grunt [2], yeoman [3] and bower
>> [4]
>>
>> [1]: http://gulpjs.com/plugins
>> [2]: http://gruntjs.com/plugins
>> [3]: http://yeoman.io/generators
>> [4]: http://bower.io/search
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 3:57 PM Michael Brooks
>> <michael@michaelbrooks.ca
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','michael@michaelbrooks.ca');>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> The mirroring may not help for search, but my worry is that a lot
>> of
>>
>> folks
>>
>> would still be on 4.3.0 and when cordova plugins registry becomes
>> read only, they would not get bug fixes and other plugin updates.
>>
>>
>>
>> My experience is this:
>>
>> - A developer who is willing to upgrade a platform is also willing
>> to upgrading a plugin.
>> - A developer who is *not* willing to upgrade a platform is also
>> *not* willing in upgrading a plugin.
>>
>> I think it's reasonable to offer a read-only state for the legacy
>> plugin registry. However, it would be helpful for the registry to
>> explain the minimum Cordova version required to support the npm registry.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Parashuram N (MS OPEN TECH) <
>> panarasi@microsoft.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','panarasi@microsoft.com');>> wrote:
>>
>> The mirroring may not help for search, but my worry is that a lot
>> of
>>
>> folks
>>
>> would still be on 4.3.0 and when cordova plugins registry becomes
>> read only, they would not get bug fixes and other plugin updates.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Victor Sosa [mailto:sosah.victor@gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sosah.victor@gmail.com');>]
>> Sent: Friday, May 1, 2015 8:59 AM
>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dev@cordova.apache.org');>
>> Subject: Re: "Best" place to browse plugins
>>
>> I don't see a value on mirroring either. Instead I'd like to see a
>> good querying mechanism in NPM, but for that we have to wait :/
>>
>> 2015-05-01 10:55 GMT-05:00 Raymond Camden <raymondcamden@gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','raymondcamden@gmail.com');>>:
>>
>> I don't know - if npm is the place, then having a mirror just
>> seems like noise. I'd say close it down and put a nice text
>> message up on the site explaining where it is at NPM and how to
>> search. (Link to npm with the search params included.)
>>
>> Is there a benefit of having it mirrored?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Parashuram N (MS OPEN TECH)
>> <panarasi@microsoft.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','panarasi@microsoft.com');>> wrote:
>>
>> It would be even better (for backward compatibility reasons) if
>> we could
>>
>> simply publish on npm, but keep plugins.cordova.io as a
>> mirror/redirector, based on the Cordova registry mapper.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gorkem Ercan [mailto:gorkem.ercan@gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','gorkem.ercan@gmail.com');>]
>> Sent: Friday, May 1, 2015 8:31 AM
>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dev@cordova.apache.org');>
>> Subject: Re: "Best" place to browse plugins
>>
>>
>> What is the plan for plugins.cordova.io for after the CPR is closed?
>> Without knowing if there is a good way to retrieve the
>> list/details of
>>
>> the cordova plugins from npm.
>>
>> I would love it if we could keep it as it is with the data from npm.
>> --
>> Gorkem
>>
>> On 29 Apr 2015, at 10:57, Raymond Camden wrote:
>>
>> With plugins at npm now, what is the "best" place for users to
>> browse plugins?
>>
>> Is it at npm, using the search filter?
>> https://www.npmjs.com/browse/keyword/ecosystem:cordova
>>
>> Is it plugins.cordova.io?
>>
>> If it is npm, will there be text added to plugins.cordova.io to
>> tell folks to start using the npm site?
>>
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