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From "Gorkem Ercan" <gorkem.er...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: "Best" place to browse plugins
Date Fri, 29 May 2015 00:55:07 GMT


On 28 May 2015, at 19:41, Murat Sutunc wrote:

> I had some free time today and started working on a plugin search 
> prototype. Currently it doesn't offer much but it's very similar to 
> what Gulp has.
>
> GH: https://github.com/muratsu/cordova-plugin-search
> Imgur (can't add images to mails :( ): http://imgur.com/sX8oFcJ
>
> One problem I've run into is discoverability. Currently we're using 
> the keyword `ecosystem:cordova` with all of the plugins. Ecosystem is 
> a wider term than plugins and will most likely contain irrelevant 
> search results.
>
It does, I use it and at least all the cordova-platforms appear on the 
results.


> I was hoping that we switch to using `cordova-plugin` or 
> `cordovaplugin` keyword going forward for better discoverability. Also 
> for comparison, yeoman uses `yeoman-generator`, gulp uses `gulpplugin` 
> and grunt uses `gruntplugin`. Thoughts?
>

+1.  I guess there is no way to add them for all the existing plugins 
though.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steven Gill [mailto:stevengill97@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 3:35 PM
> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> Cc: Tommy-Carlos Williams
> Subject: Re: "Best" place to browse plugins
>
> npm does have a plan to improve their ecosystem + communities later 
> this year. We will essentially get a portal for cordova on npmjs.
>
> I also agree in turning plugins.cordova.io into a Gulp & Yeoman style 
> search page. Probably won't be doing that until our current registry 
> is shut down I imagine.
>
> On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 7:42 AM, Kerri Shotts <kerrishotts@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>> I've used both Gulp & Yeoman's search, and prefer both to NPM
>> (although it's not difficult to be better than NPM's search).
>>
>> I also think close association with the brand and site are important.
>> For those users who don't know about Node & NPM yet, it's quickly
>> apparent that there's a large community creating plugins for Cordova,
>> and for everyone else, we have a URL that helps reinforce the Cordova
>> name. NPM would still be canonical, of course.
>>
>> (Now if NPM improved their search and did some nice work around
>> ecosystems, perhaps the above wouldn't be necessary. But I'm not 
>> going
>> to hold my breath...)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 27, 2015 at 8:19:35 AM, Tommy-Carlos Williams
>> (tommy@devgeeks.org)
>> wrote:
>>
>> +1
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 26 May 2015, at 21:44, Carlos Santana <csantana23@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I would like to see plugin.cordova.io be a page easy to search and
>> filter
>>> cordova plugins just like gulp [1], grunt [2], yeoman [3] and bower
>>> [4]
>>>
>>> [1]: http://gulpjs.com/plugins
>>> [2]: http://gruntjs.com/plugins
>>> [3]: http://yeoman.io/generators
>>> [4]: http://bower.io/search
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 3:57 PM Michael Brooks
>>> <michael@michaelbrooks.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The mirroring may not help for search, but my worry is that a lot
>>>>> of
>>>> folks
>>>>> would still be on 4.3.0 and when cordova plugins registry becomes
>>>>> read only, they would not get bug fixes and other plugin updates.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My experience is this:
>>>>
>>>> - A developer who is willing to upgrade a platform is also willing
>>>> to upgrading a plugin.
>>>> - A developer who is *not* willing to upgrade a platform is also
>>>> *not* willing in upgrading a plugin.
>>>>
>>>> I think it's reasonable to offer a read-only state for the legacy
>>>> plugin registry. However, it would be helpful for the registry to
>>>> explain the minimum Cordova version required to support the npm 
>>>> registry.
>>>>
>>>> Michael
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Parashuram N (MS OPEN TECH) <
>>>> panarasi@microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The mirroring may not help for search, but my worry is that a lot
>>>>> of
>>>> folks
>>>>> would still be on 4.3.0 and when cordova plugins registry becomes
>>>>> read only, they would not get bug fixes and other plugin updates.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Victor Sosa [mailto:sosah.victor@gmail.com]
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 1, 2015 8:59 AM
>>>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: "Best" place to browse plugins
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't see a value on mirroring either. Instead I'd like to see a
>>>>> good querying mechanism in NPM, but for that we have to wait :/
>>>>>
>>>>> 2015-05-01 10:55 GMT-05:00 Raymond Camden 
>>>>> <raymondcamden@gmail.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know - if npm is the place, then having a mirror just
>>>>>> seems like noise. I'd say close it down and put a nice text
>>>>>> message up on the site explaining where it is at NPM and how to
>>>>>> search. (Link to npm with the search params included.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there a benefit of having it mirrored?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, May 1, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Parashuram N (MS OPEN TECH)
>>>>>> <panarasi@microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> It would be even better (for backward compatibility reasons)
if
>>>>>>> we could
>>>>>> simply publish on npm, but keep plugins.cordova.io as a
>>>>>> mirror/redirector, based on the Cordova registry mapper.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Gorkem Ercan [mailto:gorkem.ercan@gmail.com]
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 1, 2015 8:31 AM
>>>>>>> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: "Best" place to browse plugins
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is the plan for plugins.cordova.io for after the CPR is

>>>>>>> closed?
>>>>>>> Without knowing if there is a good way to retrieve the
>>>>>>> list/details of
>>>>>> the cordova plugins from npm.
>>>>>>> I would love it if we could keep it as it is with the data from

>>>>>>> npm.
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Gorkem
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 29 Apr 2015, at 10:57, Raymond Camden wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With plugins at npm now, what is the "best" place for users
to
>>>>>>>> browse plugins?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is it at npm, using the search filter?
>>>>>>>> https://www.npmjs.com/browse/keyword/ecosystem:cordova
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is it plugins.cordova.io?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If it is npm, will there be text added to plugins.cordova.io
to
>>>>>>>> tell folks to start using the npm site?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> ===============================================================
>>>>>>>> ==== === ===== Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate for
>>>>>>>> MobileFirst at IBM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Email : raymondcamden@gmail.com Blog : www.raymondcamden.com
>>>>>>>> Twitter: raymondcamden
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> =================================================================
>>>>>> ===== ===== Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate for MobileFirst at
>>>>>> IBM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Email : raymondcamden@gmail.com
>>>>>> Blog : www.raymondcamden.com
>>>>>> Twitter: raymondcamden
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Victor Adrian Sosa Herrera
>>>>> IBM Software Engineer
>>>>> Guadalajara, Jalisco
>>>>
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