Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-cordova-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-cordova-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3ECA7175A7 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 20:58:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 1156 invoked by uid 500); 7 Apr 2015 20:58:50 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cordova-dev-archive@cordova.apache.org Received: (qmail 1116 invoked by uid 500); 7 Apr 2015 20:58:50 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cordova.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@cordova.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cordova.apache.org Received: (qmail 1104 invoked by uid 99); 7 Apr 2015 20:58:50 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 07 Apr 2015 20:58:50 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of panarasi@microsoft.com designates 207.46.100.132 as permitted sender) Received: from [207.46.100.132] (HELO na01-by2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com) (207.46.100.132) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 07 Apr 2015 20:58:46 +0000 Received: from DM2PR03MB366.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (10.141.55.18) by DM2PR03MB367.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (10.141.55.21) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.136.17; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 20:58:10 +0000 Received: from DM2PR03MB366.namprd03.prod.outlook.com ([10.141.55.18]) by DM2PR03MB366.namprd03.prod.outlook.com ([10.141.55.18]) with mapi id 15.01.0136.014; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 20:58:10 +0000 From: "Parashuram N (MS OPEN TECH)" To: "dev@cordova.apache.org" Subject: Re: Platform guides update Thread-Topic: Platform guides update Thread-Index: AdBxZOlyJQi/SLP0T2iwmZch0hxt+QABImiAAAAfcQAAAHOiAAAAYEMAAADkvIAAAF7rAAAAOauA//+PTIA= Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2015 20:58:10 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: authentication-results: cordova.apache.org; dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none; x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-originating-ip: [71.231.182.188] x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:DM2PR03MB367; x-forefront-antispam-report: BMV:1;SFV:NSPM;SFS:(10019020)(6009001)(377454003)(479174004)(24454002)(51704005)(252514010)(110136001)(2351001)(107886001)(99286002)(2900100001)(102836002)(92566002)(77096005)(86362001)(86612001)(19580405001)(19580395003)(66066001)(325944007)(46102003)(15974865002)(87936001)(2656002)(62966003)(50986999)(77156002)(450100001)(54356999)(2950100001)(122556002)(76176999)(2501003)(93886004)(36756003)(40100003);DIR:OUT;SFP:1102;SCL:1;SRVR:DM2PR03MB367;H:DM2PR03MB366.namprd03.prod.outlook.com;FPR:;SPF:None;MLV:sfv;LANG:en; x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:; x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:(601004)(5002010)(5005006);SRVR:DM2PR03MB367;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:DM2PR03MB367; x-forefront-prvs: 0539EEBD11 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: microsoft.onmicrosoft.com X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 07 Apr 2015 20:58:10.2680 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 72f988bf-86f1-41af-91ab-2d7cd011db47 X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: DM2PR03MB367 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org I also think that apart for API/Reference like docs, it may help the community to have detailed guide, tutorials, etc. I understand that some of them may be hard, but do you guys see value in putting up something like a =B3course=B2 for using Cordova, tutorial for building sample apps, using Cordova with JS frameworks, etc - things that would help a beginner get started quickly. On 4/7/15, 1:41 PM, "Raymond Camden" wrote: >Fair enough. I think my concern is overwhelming new users - but - I'll >stand back and wait for these new docs to go up before I complain/nag >anymore. :) > >On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Brian LeRoux wrote: >> I humbly submit that we want very detailed documentation to turn those >> lower numbers into more involved community members. (Ideally >>contributing >> code and docs themselves!) >> >> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Raymond Camden >> wrote: >> >>> That makes sense - I just worry that if that use case ("extending >>> Cordova") is 10% of the reader base than it should not (imo) be 50% of >>> the docs. Btw - totally guessing at those numbers as I haven't seen >>> the changes. :) >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Brian LeRoux wrote: >>> > We recommend using the thing that works best for you for building >>>apps >>> BUT >>> > if you are extending Cordova you'll need to run with Android Studio, >>> Xcode >>> > and friends. We support both. >>> > >>> > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Raymond Camden >>>>> > >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> >> "Replace Eclipse example w/ Android Studio as officially recommended >>> >> option/tool" >>> >> Do we really recommend this over CLI + "your favorite editor" ? >>> >> >>> >> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Jesse >>>wrote: >>> >> > +1000 >>> >> > >>> >> > @purplecabbage >>> >> > risingj.com >>> >> > >>> >> > On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Andrew Grieve >>> >>> >> wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> >> These changes all sound great! >>> >> >> >>> >> >> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Sergey Grebnov (Akvelon) < >>> >> >> v-segreb@microsoft.com> wrote: >>> >> >> >>> >> >> > Hi guys, I see that some docs are outdated or not actual >>>anymore >>> so I >>> >> >> want >>> >> >> > to improve this. Please let me know if someone already working >>>on >>> >> this or >>> >> >> > going to take a look. I've listed below some things I want to >>> update, >>> >> >> could >>> >> >> > you please review them before I stared working on this >>>(additional >>> >> >> > suggestions and ideas are very welcome) >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > iOS: >>> >> >> > 1. Xcode 4.x->5.x >>> >> >> > 2. Add information about ios-sim required to deploy app >>>from >>> >> command >>> >> >> > line >>> >> >> > 3. Add information how to list available deploy targets >>>and run >>> >> app >>> >> >> on >>> >> >> > specific target/device >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > Android: >>> >> >> > 1. Add changes in favor of replacing Ant w/ Gradle >>> >> >> > a. Remove Ant from requirements >>> >> >> > b. Replace Eclipse example w/ Android Studio as >>>officially >>> >> >> > recommended option/tool >>> >> >> > 2. Add more details about particular Android >>> packages/components >>> >> >> > required to be installed. >>> >> >> > Android 5.0.1 (API 21) platform SDK >>> >> >> > Android SDK Build-tools version 19.1.0 or higher >>> >> >> > Android Support Repository (Extras) >>> >> >> > 3. Add information how to list available deploy targets >>>and run >>> >> app >>> >> >> on >>> >> >> > specific target/device >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > Windows: >>> >> >> > 1. Remove 'To develop apps for Windows 8.0 only:' >>> >> >> > 2. Hardware requirements to run Windows Phone emulator >>>(Client >>> >> >> Hyper-V >>> >> >> > and Second Level Address Translation (SLAT)) >>> >> >> > 3. Add information how to list available deploy targets >>>and run >>> >> app >>> >> >> on >>> >> >> > specific target/device >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > Thx! >>> >> >> > Sergey >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >> >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org >>> >> >> > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@cordova.apache.org >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> >>>=20 >>>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>>=3D=3D=3D >>> >> Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate for MobileFirst at IBM >>> >> >>> >> Email : raymondcamden@gmail.com >>> >> Blog : www.raymondcamden.com >>> >> Twitter: raymondcamden >>> >> >>> >>=20 >>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org >>> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@cordova.apache.org >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>>=20 >>>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>>=3D=3D=3D >>> Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate for MobileFirst at IBM >>> >>> Email : raymondcamden@gmail.com >>> Blog : www.raymondcamden.com >>> Twitter: raymondcamden >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@cordova.apache.org >>> >>> > > > >--=20 >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >=3D >Raymond Camden, Developer Advocate for MobileFirst at IBM > >Email : raymondcamden@gmail.com >Blog : www.raymondcamden.com >Twitter: raymondcamden > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org >For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@cordova.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@cordova.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@cordova.apache.org