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From Andrew Grieve <agri...@chromium.org>
Subject Re: Apache license in "cordova create"
Date Wed, 10 Dec 2014 20:32:57 GMT
Could we just strip the license as a part of the create script?

On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io> wrote:

> recent discussions elsewhere indicate (to me) that while the ASL (apache
> software license) is compatible with other licenses but the ASF (apache
> software foundation) doesn't want to conflate our source with other ones
> (reasonable imo)
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Josh Soref <jsoref@blackberry.com>
> wrote:
>
> > In theory, shouldn't we be able to put that file under an MIT/BSD license
> > to make people happier?
> >
> > Getting sample content to be usable by others is a pain, and something
> > that is one of the last steps people work on.
> >
> > I think Mozilla moved its tests to MIT to address this.
> >
> > I have no idea what Apache's policy is.
> >
> > Unfortunately, I can't find any good examples of this…
> >
> >
> https://github.com/eclipsesource/raspberry-pi-examples/blob/master/com.ecli
> >
> psesource.iot.photosensor-example/src/com/eclipsesource/iot/photosensor/exa
> > mple/Main.java
> >
> > Has an Eclipse license on a sample, which is probably just as bad.
> >
> >
> http://hg.netbeans.org/main/file/23e994b27837/apisupport.crudsample/crud-sa
> > mple-application/CustomerDBAccess/src/demo/Customer.java
> >
> > Has GPL/CDDL. GPL is clearly useless. I'm not sure CDDL is more helpful
> > than Apache.
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.contactandcoil.com/software/a-very-fast-tutorial-on-open-source-
> > licenses/
> >
> >
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/cayenne-dev/200710.mbox/%3C62FEC22
> > 5-FE92-476B-84C1-69869B179F9E@objectstyle.org%3E
> >
> > http://apache.org/legal/3party.html#category-a
> >
> >
> http://opendata.stackexchange.com/questions/245/cc-by-vs-mit-or-bsd-license
> > s-regarding-re-use
> >
> >
> > https://wiki.creativecommons.org/CC0_FAQ
> >
> >
> > I think we should probably get permission and relicense those files as
> > CC-0.
> >
> > CC-0 isn't in the list that Apache has whitelisted, but I think we should
> > be able to convince apache that this is the right license for these files
> > (and similar template files to be used to generate content that a
> consumer
> > is supposed to be able to do w/ however they please).
> >
> > On 12/10/14, 2:02 PM, "Brian LeRoux" <b@brian.io> wrote:
> >
> > >no mistake, but it is a requirement for us to distribute code at apache.
> > >you are free to remove and relicense as you wish.
> > >
> > >On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Martin Sidaway <msidaway@gmail.com>
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> I'm a bit puzzled by the Apache license notice present in the
> following
> > >> files after doing "cordova create":
> > >>
> > >> www/index.html
> > >> www/js/index.js
> > >> www/css/index.css
> > >>
> > >> The trouble is that if I begin my project by extending those files, it
> > >> seems like the Apache license covers my changes as well as the
> original
> > >> template. It also seems like I am saying that my changes are "licensed
> > >>to
> > >> the Apache Software Foundation under one or more contributor license
> > >> agreements". And it doesn't seem like the Apache license would allow
> me
> > >>to
> > >> remove those notices.
> > >>
> > >> So am I right in thinking that if I want to develop software that I
> > >>might
> > >> not intend to be Apache-licensed and/or licensed to ASF, I have to
> > >>delete
> > >> these 3 files and start from scratch?
> > >>
> > >> This sort of thing seems a little inappropriate in a template.
> Basically
> > >> what it means is that I have to (1) work out what the template does
> and
> > >> which parts I actually need to begin a project, (2) rewrite those
> parts
> > >>by
> > >> hand (basic html document structure, meta/viewport tag, etc.) taking
> > >>care
> > >> not to resort to copy/paste, (3) gradually realise that the aspects of
> > >>my
> > >> app that behave inconveniently on certain platforms correspond to
> > >>things I
> > >> chose not to copy over from the template.
> > >>
> > >> Is there any other way to approach this? Is it a mistake?
> > >>
> > >> Thanks.
> > >>
> >
> >
>

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