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Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 13:12:04 -0400
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Subject: Re: [iOS 8] Status of WKWebView work
From: Carlos Santana <csantana23@gmail.com>
To: "dev@cordova.apache.org" <dev@cordova.apache.org>
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Ross can you clarify your results for Objectstore ArrayBuffer?

Notes:
- Objectstore ArrayBuffer is only supported in Safari & WKWebView App

iPod Touch iOS 8 *Safari*
UserAgent - Mozilla/5.0 (iPod touch; CPU iPhone OS 8_0 like Mac OS X)
AppleWebKit/600.1.4 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/8.0 Mobile/12A365
- Objectstore ArrayBuffer Support - *Yes*

iPod Touch iOS 8 *HomeScreen*
UserAgent - Mozilla/5.0 (iPod touch; CPU iPhone OS 8_0 like Mac OS X)
AppleWebKit/600.1.4 (KHTML, like Gecko) Mobile/12A365
- Objectstore ArrayBuffer Support - *No*


iPod Touch iOS 8 *WKWebView*
UserAgent - Mozilla/5.0 (iPod touch; CPU iPhone OS 8_0 like Mac OS X)
AppleWebKit/600.1.4 (KHTML, like Gecko) Mobile/12A365
- Objectstore ArrayBuffer Support - *No*


iPod Touch iOS 8 *UIWebView*
UserAgent - Mozilla/5.0 (iPod touch; CPU iPhone OS 8_0 like Mac OS X)
AppleWebKit/600.1.4 (KHTML, like Gecko) Mobile/12A365
- Objectstore ArrayBuffer Support - *No*

On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Ross Gerbasi <rgerbasi@gmail.com> wrote:

> If you have a chance can you re-run the tests and make sure I didn't scre=
w
> anything up? :)
>
> -ross
>
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Shazron <shazron@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Ross - shoot. Arrgh I may have mixed up my test apps :( I should emblaz=
on
> > "WKWebView" or "UIWebView" at the start of the app. Thank goodness for
> peer
> > review...
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 1:11 AM, Ross Gerbasi <rgerbasi@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Here are the results of some tests on iOS8, hopefully they will be
> useful
> > > to someone! :)
> > > I need to do some more useful tests on DOM related stuff as it was
> > > mentioned here already JS speed is not usually the bottleneck in
> Cordova
> > > apps.  Unless you're doing crazy crypto like some people :)
> > >
> > > *@Shazron:* I am not seeing IndexedDB support in UIWebView but maybe =
I
> am
> > > not enabling something I need to on the native side? For me HTML5 Tes=
t
> is
> > > only showing IndexedDB for Safari and WKWebView. As you can see I am
> > > getting a dramatic lower HTML5 Test score in UIWEbView vs WKWebView.
> > >
> > >
> > > *Tests run on an iPod Touch 5th Generation running iOS8 GA*
> > >
> > > iPod Touch iOS 8 *Safari*
> > > UserAgent - Mozilla/5.0 (iPod touch; CPU iPhone OS 8_0 like Mac OS X)
> > > AppleWebKit/600.1.4 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/8.0 Mobile/12A365
> > > Safari/600.1.4
> > > Sunspider - 1825ms Overall
> > > HMTL5 Test - 440/555
> > > - Seamless iFrame - No
> > > - 2D Graphics Path Support - Yes
> > > - Web GL 3D Graphics - Yes
> > > - IndexedDB - Yes
> > > - Objectstore ArrayBuffer Support - Yes
> > >
> > > iPod Touch iOS 8 *HomeScreen*
> > > UserAgent - Mozilla/5.0 (iPod touch; CPU iPhone OS 8_0 like Mac OS X)
> > > AppleWebKit/600.1.4 (KHTML, like Gecko) Mobile/12A365
> > > SunSpider - 1801.0ms Overall
> > > HTML5 Test - 427/555
> > > - Seamless iFrame - No
> > > - 2D Graphics Path Support - Yes
> > > - Web GL 3D Graphics - Yes
> > > - IndexedDB - No
> > > - Objectstore ArrayBuffer Support - No
> > >
> > >
> > > iPod Touch iOS 8 *WKWebView*
> > > UserAgent - Mozilla/5.0 (iPod touch; CPU iPhone OS 8_0 like Mac OS X)
> > > AppleWebKit/600.1.4 (KHTML, like Gecko) Mobile/12A365
> > > SunSpider - 1822.8ms Overall
> > > HTML5 Test - 438/555
> > > - Seamless iFrame - No
> > > - 2D Graphics Path Support - Yes
> > > - Web GL 3D Graphics - Yes
> > > - IndexedDB - Yes
> > > - Objectstore ArrayBuffer Support - No
> > >
> > >
> > > iPod Touch iOS 8 *UIWebView*
> > > UserAgent - Mozilla/5.0 (iPod touch; CPU iPhone OS 8_0 like Mac OS X)
> > > AppleWebKit/600.1.4 (KHTML, like Gecko) Mobile/12A365
> > > SunSpider - 7114.6ms Overall
> > > HTML5 Test - 427/555
> > > - Seamless iFrame - No
> > > - 2D Graphics Path Support - Yes
> > > - Web GL 3D Graphics - Yes
> > > - IndexedDB - No
> > > - Objectstore ArrayBuffer Support - No
> > >
> > >
> > > *iOS 8 Notes*
> > > - Seamless iFrame was removed compared to iOS 7.1.2
> > > - IndexedDB is only supported in Safari & WKWebView App
> > > - Objectstore ArrayBuffer is only supported in Safari & WKWebView App
> > > - UIWebView is ~4x slower then WKWebView for JS (Sunspider results)
> > > - WKWebView cannot load local files (issue for Cordova/Phonegap/Offli=
ne
> > > Solutions)
> > >         - No UserAgent difference between UIWebView and WKWebView.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 7:41 PM, tommy-carlos williams <
> > tommy@devgeeks.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Generally speaking, JS performance is not a problem for most iOS
> > Cordova
> > > > apps. Certainly I never had a problem until recently.
> > > >
> > > > Sadly, I now work with a JS privacy (crypto) lib called Crypton[1]
> that
> > > > works pretty damn good on Android, decently on BB10 and even pretty
> > good
> > > on
> > > > FxOS=E2=80=A6 but takes like 2 MINUTES just to log in on an iPhone =
5 :(
> > > >
> > > > And that=E2=80=99s only using 1000 rounds of PBKDF2 for SRP authent=
ication
> > (less
> > > > than we would like).
> > > >
> > > > Luckily, my use case is not the norm=E2=80=A6 but it does mean I am=
 making
> apps
> > > > that are unusable on iOS, which makes me sad.
> > > >
> > > > 1. https://crypton.io
> > > >
> > > > On 10 September 2014 at 10:20:21, Andrew Grieve (
> agrieve@chromium.org)
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > That's great news.
> > > >
> > > > JS execution speed honestly hasn't really been a problem for Cordov=
a
> > > > apps that I've heard of anyways.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 7:01 PM, Shazron <shazron@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Some interesting findings - iOS UIWebView and WKWebView have the
> same
> > > > > user-agent value, and both score 440 on html5test.com.
> > > > >
> > > > > Which makes me think they use the same engine (renderer and js),
> but
> > > > > UIWebView has nitro turned off. WKWebView seems to be about 4x
> faster
> > > on
> > > > > the Sunspider benchmark.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 3:58 PM, Shazron <shazron@gmail.com> wrote=
:
> > > > >
> > > > >> UIWebView iOS 8 scores 440/555 points on html5test.com, and yes
> it
> > > > >> supports indexedDB
> > > > >> Full results: http://html5te.st/f16d892273bbe5bd
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Andrew Grieve <
> agrieve@chromium.org
> > >
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> :(
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Hopefully UIWebView will still get some updates though? E.g.
> > > IndexedDb?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Tommy Williams <
> tommy@devgeeks.org
> > >
> > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > >>> > That's pretty disappointing.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Especially with not even a comment from apple.
> > > > >>> > On 10 Sep 2014 05:50, "Shazron" <shazron@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> >> Well, bad news. I just installed the iOS 8 GM firmware on an
> > > iPhone
> > > > 5
> > > > >>> and
> > > > >>> >> used Xcode 6 GM, and the file:// url "bug" (assuming it is a
> bug
> > > and
> > > > >>> not by
> > > > >>> >> design) is still there.
> > > > >>> >>
> > > > >>> >> http://www.openradar.me/radar?id=3D5839348817723392
> > > > >>> >>
> > > > >>> >> On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Shazron <shazron@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >>> >>
> > > > >>> >> > Clarification:
> > > > >>> >> > When I said "The bridge works great, and plugins work
> great."
> > > this
> > > > >>> was
> > > > >>> >> > for loading a html page and plugins using the file://
> protocol
> > > > using
> > > > >>> >> > WKWebView (as the title of the report implies). The bug I
> > > reported
> > > > >>> was on
> > > > >>> >> > Device (> iOS beta 4), on Simulator it is *fine* (this inf=
o
> > was
> > > in
> > > > >>> the
> > > > >>> >> bug
> > > > >>> >> > report as well).
> > > > >>> >> >
> > > > >>> >> > *Nothing* has been done using the local web server and pro=
xy
> > (at
> > > > >>> least
> > > > >>> >> > nothing checked in). An implementation on how the proxy
> works
> > > can
> > > > be
> > > > >>> seen
> > > > >>> >> > in the PhoneGap Developer App:
> > > > >>> >> > https://github.com/phonegap/phonegap-app-developer
> > > > >>> >> >
> > > > >>> >> > See CB-7043 for progress on tasks regarding this.
> > > > >>> >> >
> > > > >>> >> >
> > > > >>> >> >
> > > > >>> >> > On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Shazron <shazron@gmail.co=
m
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >>> >> >
> > > > >>> >> >> I figure I will write this all up before the official
> release
> > > of
> > > > >>> iOS 8
> > > > >>> >> >> next week (probability high) and everyone asking about
> > support.
> > > > >>> >> >>
> > > > >>> >> >> It has stalled because the WKWebView cannot load files
> using
> > > the
> > > > >>> file://
> > > > >>> >> >> protocol since iOS 8 beta 4.
> > > > >>> >> >>
> > > > >>> >> >> This bug has been filed with Apple weeks ago:
> > > > >>> >> >> http://www.openradar.me/radar?id=3D5839348817723392
> > > > >>> >> >>
> > > > >>> >> >> I even checked WebKit check-ins if there was any progress=
,
> so
> > > > far,
> > > > >>> no:
> > > > >>> >> >>
> > > > >>> >> >>
> > > > >>> >>
> > > > >>>
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://trac.webkit.org/browser/trunk/Source/WebKit2/UIProcess/API/Cocoa?o=
rder=3Ddate&desc=3D1
> > > > >>> >> >> (but it's entirely possible the loading code is in anothe=
r
> > part
> > > > of
> > > > >>> the
> > > > >>> >> >> tree).
> > > > >>> >> >>
> > > > >>> >> >> The alternative is to run a local web server, which works
> > > great.
> > > > >>> >> However,
> > > > >>> >> >> this will open up a can of worms possibly with Apple, I'm
> not
> > > > sure.
> > > > >>> >> >>
> > > > >>> >> >> The other interesting tidbit is, with WKWebView, for
> locally
> > > > loaded
> > > > >>> >> files
> > > > >>> >> >> using the file:// protocol, cross-domain restrictions now
> > > apply,
> > > > >>> unlike
> > > > >>> >> >> UIWebView's behaviour. To have the same behaviour as
> > UIWebView,
> > > > we
> > > > >>> would
> > > > >>> >> >> need to proxy these requests (modify xhr.open to go to ou=
r
> > > proxy,
> > > > >>> which
> > > > >>> >> >> requires the local web server).
> > > > >>> >> >>
> > > > >>> >> >> The bridge works great, and plugins work great.
> > > > >>> >> >>
> > > > >>> >> >>
> > > > >>> >> >>
> > > > >>> >> >>
> > > > >>> >> >>
> > > > >>> >> >
> > > > >>> >>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


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