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From Brian LeRoux...@brian.io>
Subject Re: remotely loaded pages
Date Wed, 03 Sep 2014 21:35:28 GMT
there is no appcache in webview based apps…unless we implement it as a
plugin (which we won't b/c appcache is a sort of terrible spec)




On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Chuck Lantz <clantz@microsoft.com> wrote:

> Out of curiosity, for production use where you presumably want people to
> take the updates (say because you don't want to keep your web service
> back-end supporting older versions of your app), wouldn't simply using an
> offline appcache with a hosted source achieve some of the same goals?  At a
> certain point I suppose you hit size limits if you update all of your app
> content - iOS maxes out at 10mb I think.
>
> -Chuck
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: brian.leroux@gmail.com [mailto:brian.leroux@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
> Brian LeRoux
> Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 12:15 PM
> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> Subject: Re: remotely loaded pages
>
> No apologies! It definitely *is* for dev authoring workflow currently …but
> given the #'s I think it could be suitable for production runtime. (Sorry I
> wasn't clear on that.)
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Tim Kim <timkim85@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >
> > > I wonder how it solves the problems of serving the correct version
> > > of cordova.js and cordova_plugin.js depending on the version of the
> > > native code that is installed on the different versions of the
> > > mobile App in production.
> >
> >
> > When you connect to the IP that's being served by connect-phonegap,
> > the client will send its device.version and device.platform to the
> > server. On the server's side, there's a res folder within
> > connect-phonegap with all the various version and platforms of the
> > cordova.js, cordova_plugins.js and plugins/.
> >
> >
> > On 21 August 2014 11:20, Carlos Santana <csantana23@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Sorry Brian, I thought it was a development time tool to allow for
> > > fast development cycle associated with PhoneGap Developer App.
> > >
> > > I guess they can use it and run the connect-phonegap in a production
> > > node-js backend system, I wonder how it solves the problems of
> > > serving
> > the
> > > correct version of cordova.js and cordova_plugin.js depending on the
> > > version of the native code that is installed on the different
> > > versions of the mobile App in production.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io> wrote:
> > >
> > > > totally, though connect-phonegap *could* be considered production
> > worthy
> > > > (it is being used significantly by the pg downstream community)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Carlos Santana
> > > > <csantana23@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Brain I think that's OK at development time everything is fair
> > > > > game
> > :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > The problem is developers doing stupid things like loading a
> > cordova.js
> > > > > from a place they don't know for a in production app being used
> > > > > by
> > end
> > > > > users, that's just kamikaze
> > > > >
> > > > > That's OK if they want to shoot themselves in the foot, but then
> > don't
> > > > come
> > > > > crying to JIRA claiming that is a problem with Cordova project.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io>
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > phonegap-connect serves up remote cordova.js (negotiates the
> > > requestor
> > > > to
> > > > > > send the right file)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > no deaths yet!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > https://github.com/phonegap/connect-phonegap/blob/master/lib/middlewar
> > e/cordova/cordova.js#L29
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Ally Ogilvie
> > > > > > <aogilvie@wizcorp.jp
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > That's a good difference to point out.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >My personal position is that scenarios where developer
is
> > > > > > > >in
> > > control
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > >loaded locally (i.e. directupdate, appmobi, spellcaster)
is
> > > > > > > >a
> > > valid
> > > > > > > >scenario for Cordova
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I agree, because as cordova.js and cordovaLib are version
> > > > > > > linked,
> > > it
> > > > > > makes
> > > > > > > sense that once an index.html is pulled in, it's cordova.js
> > > > > > > to
> > load
> > > > is
> > > > > > > already in the client application.
> > > > > > > Loading an external cordova.js would be suicidal. So we
save
> > > > > > > the
> > > file
> > > > > > > locally to write into it's <HEAD> our known path
to
> > > > > > > codova.js
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Carlos Santana <
> > > > csantana23@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I want to make clarification there is a notable difference
> > > between
> > > > > > > loading
> > > > > > > > a remotely-loaded *(non-local) *HTML pages with Cordova
> > > > > > > > vs. a
> > > > > > downloaded
> > > > > > > > webapp to be loaded from a *local* HTML.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > IBM Worklight has a feature "Direct update"
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > http://www-01.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/api/content/SSZH4A_6.2.0
> > /com.ibm.worklight.dev.doc/admin/c_direct_updates_app_versions_to_mob.
> > html?locale=en
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The scenario is a download and local load of html/cordova.
> > > Similar
> > > > > > > scenario
> > > > > > > > as spellcaster and appmobi For this scenario there
is
> > > > > > > > control from app developer of the
> > code
> > > > > being
> > > > > > > > loaded.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What Marcel is asking is a *non-local* load of arbitrary
> > > html/code
> > > > > not
> > > > > > > > control by developer, developer loading a free html
page
> > > > > > > > own
> > > > someone
> > > > > > else
> > > > > > > > and doing kind of a "document.location.replace('
> > > > > > > > http://somerandom.com/thisotherguy.html')"
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My personal position is that scenarios where developer
is
> > > > > > > > in
> > > > control
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > loaded locally (i.e. directupdate, appmobi, spellcaster)
> > > > > > > > is a
> > > valid
> > > > > > > > scenario for Cordova. loading a random cordova.js
directly
> > from a
> > > > > > > non-local
> > > > > > > > random place not guarantee to be supported.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Brian LeRoux
> > > > > > > > <b@brian.io>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Very much so. So much so, I think we should even
> > > > > > > > > consider
> > such
> > > > > > > > > functionality as 'core'. Could dovetail w/ Serviceworker.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 7:26 AM, Andrew Grieve
<
> > > > > agrieve@chromium.org
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I think this is a very desired plugin that
many end up
> > > > > re-writing,
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > it's
> > > > > > > > > > far better than setting the content src
directly to a
> > remote
> > > > URL.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > E.g. just stumbled across this yesterday:
> > > > > > > > > > http://docs.appmobi.com/index.php/live-update/
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 7:57 AM, Michal
Mocny <
> > > > > mmocny@chromium.org
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Make it available Ally, of course that
sounds
> > interesting!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I'm sure a few of us have suggestions
for
> > > > > > > > > > > improvements
> > too.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 2:38 AM, Ally
Ogilvie <
> > > > > > aogilvie@wizcorp.jp
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Marcel, Sorry for the late reply.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > For some games that I produce
where the entire
> > > > > > > > > > > > game is
> > > > served
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > client
> > > > > > > > > > > > (requires no .html in the application)
we have a
> > > > > > > > > > > > tool
> > > > called
> > > > > > > > > > > "spellcaster".
> > > > > > > > > > > > Spellcaster handles internet connectivity,
> > > > > > > > > > > > localisation
> > > and
> > > > > > > Cordova
> > > > > > > > > > code
> > > > > > > > > > > > injection. It works as follows:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > One simply adds an application
URL to Cordova's
> > > config.xml
> > > > in
> > > > > > > > > <content
> > > > > > > > > > > > src=YOUR_URL_HERE>
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > - Spellcaster will check for an
active internet
> > > connection.
> > > > > If
> > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > > > found Spellcaster will continue
retrying at a set
> > > interval.
> > > > > > > > > > > > - Spellcaster downloads the content
of the
> > > > > > > > > > > > provided
> > > > > application
> > > > > > > URL
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > stores to application cache (overriding
any
> > > > > > > > > > > > existing
> > > > loader).
> > > > > > > > > > > > - Spellcaster injects Cordova
script tags just
> > > > > > > > > > > > after
> > the
> > > > > <head>
> > > > > > > > tag.
> > > > > > > > > > > > - Spellcaster loads the new *loader
into the
> > > > > > > > > > > > WebView
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > *loader is your html to load.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Are people still in need of such
a solution? I
> > > > > > > > > > > > could
> > have
> > > > > this
> > > > > > > code
> > > > > > > > > > made
> > > > > > > > > > > > public it just needs a public
sanitise check.
> > Spellcaster
> > > > > > > supports
> > > > > > > > > iOS
> > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > Android.
> > > > > > > > > > > > For iOS it requires 1 line of
code to be added to
> > > > > > > > > > > > didFinishLaunchingWithOptions.
> > > > > > > > > > > > For Android it requires these
overrides in onCreate:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > @Override
> > > > > > > > > > > > public void onCreate(Bundle savedInstanceState)
{
> > > > > > > > > > > >     super.onCreate(savedInstanceState);
> > > > > > > > > > > >     super.init();
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > @Override
> > > > > > > > > > > > public void init() { Spellcaster
spellcaster = new
> > > > > > > > > > > > Spellcaster(); spellcaster.init(this,
> > > > > > > > > > > > Config.getStartUrl(), appView);
...
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > @Override
> > > > > > > > > > > > public void init(org.apache.cordova.CordovaWebView
> > > webView,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > org.apache.cordova.CordovaWebViewClient
> > > > > > > webViewClient,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > org.apache.cordova.CordovaChromeClient
> > > > > > > > webChromeClient)
> > > > > > > > > {
> > > > > > > > > > > >     super.init(webView, webViewClient,
> > webChromeClient);
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >     Spellcaster spellcaster =
new Spellcaster();
> > > > > > > > > > > >     spellcaster.init(this, Config.getStartUrl(),
> > > webView);
> > > > > > > > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 2:17 PM,
purplecabbage <
> > > > > > > > > purplecabbage@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > It is great design for development,
and netflix.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 1, 2014, at 4:26
PM, Marc Weiner <
> > > > > > > mhweiner234@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's technically possible,
and even (arguably)
> > legal
> > > > > > > according
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > Apple's
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > documentation, depending
on the nature of the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > code
> > > and
> > > > > how
> > > > > > > it's
> > > > > > > > > > > > > implemented:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3.3.2 An Application
may not download or
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > install
> > > > > executable
> > > > > > > > code.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interpreted code may
only be used in an
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Application
> > > if
> > > > > all
> > > > > > > > > scripts,
> > > > > > > > > > > > code
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and interpreters are
packaged in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Application
> > and
> > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > downloaded.
> > > > > > > > > > > > The
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > only exception to the
foregoing is scripts and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > code
> > > > > > > downloaded
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > run
> > > > > > > > > > > > by
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Apple's built-in WebKit
framework, provided
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > such
> > > > > > scripts
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > code
> > > > > > > > > > > > do
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > not change the primary
purpose of the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Application
> > by
> > > > > > > providing
> > > > > > > > > > > features
> > > > > > > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > functionality that are
inconsistent with the
> > intended
> > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > advertised
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > purpose of the Application
as submitted to the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > App
> > > > Store.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > However, I would only
do so if the code is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > coming
> > > from
> > > > a
> > > > > > > server
> > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > control, and if you
are able to control what
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > code
> > is
> > > > > > getting
> > > > > > > > > > > executed.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Loading in 3rd party,
unverified scripts into
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > your
> > > > > Cordova
> > > > > > > view
> > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > big
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "no-no" for security
reasons, and could get
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > your
> > app
> > > > > > delisted
> > > > > > > > (or
> > > > > > > > > > > > > rejected).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > If anyone else has more
information on the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > topic,
> > I'd
> > > > be
> > > > > > > > > interested
> > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > hearing it.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Fri, Aug 1, 2014
at 7:01 PM, Victor Sosa <
> > > > > > > > > > sosah.victor@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Hi Frederico.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> While what you are
saying about the policies
> > stores
> > > is
> > > > > > true,
> > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > applies
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> to public stores
only (as far as I can tell).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> For
> > > > > > on-premise
> > > > > > > > app
> > > > > > > > > > > > stores
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> this might be false
because each store owner
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> need
> > to
> > > > set
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > apply
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> governance for the
apps. It could end on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> horrible
> > > > > results
> > > > > > > due
> > > > > > > > > to a
> > > > > > > > > > > bad
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> implementation.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I concur with everyone,
it is possible but
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> awful
> > > > design
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Aug 1, 2014 4:35
PM, "Frederico Galvão" <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> frederico.galvao@pontoget.com.br>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> I don't have
the details in hand at the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> moment,
> > > but I
> > > > > > > > remember
> > > > > > > > > > > seeing
> > > > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> more than one
application store last year
> > policies
> > > > > being
> > > > > > > > > changed
> > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> disallow remote
code to run in an
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> application
> > > > > on-demand.
> > > > > > > Such
> > > > > > > > > > rules
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> *could*
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> as well be applied
to Cordova apps that load
> > remote
> > > > > > content
> > > > > > > > > > > > considered
> > > > > > > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> code (HTML isn't,
but JS is). It's not only
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> a
> > > > security
> > > > > > > > concern
> > > > > > > > > > per
> > > > > > > > > > > > se,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> but
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> also an imposed
limitation on the stores
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> (which
> > > were
> > > > > > > > obviously
> > > > > > > > > > > > created
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> security concerns
in the first place).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Not even mentioning
the issues with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> providing the
> > > > right
> > > > > > > > > > cordova.js
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> version
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> from the remote
server not really knowing
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> where
> > the
> > > > > > request
> > > > > > > > > came
> > > > > > > > > > > > from.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> However, it's
good to note too that aside
> > Phonegap
> > > > > > > Developer
> > > > > > > > > App,
> > > > > > > > > > > > there
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> also Adobe Hydration
that does the exact
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> same
> > thing
> > > > as
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > side
> > > > > > > > > > > service
> > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Phonegap Build.
I don't know if they've come
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> into
> > > any
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > issues
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> mentioned, and
I haven't even heard of it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> being
> > > used
> > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > production.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> 2014-08-01 17:36
GMT-03:00 purplecabbage <
> > > > > > > > > > purplecabbage@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > > > >:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> I agree
with all your statements Marcel. I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> use
> > > this
> > > > > > > approach
> > > > > > > > > > > > > frequently
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> dev for
fast turnaround.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Ultimately
App Store policies decide what
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> can
> > and
> > > > > cannot
> > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > done.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Regarding
security, there is nothing I can
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> do
> > > with a
> > > > > > > remote
> > > > > > > > > page
> > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> can't already
do inside my app. It's an
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> issue of
> > > > > trust.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Sent from
my iPhone
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> On Aug
1, 2014, at 10:35 AM, Shazron <
> > > > > > shazron@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> I agree
that it is not recommended, but
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> it's
> > > > > possible.
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > delved
> > > > > > > > > > > > into
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> this
question here:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > https://github.com/shazron/phonegap-questions/issues/37
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> The
PhoneGap Developer App is an example
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> of how
> > > > this
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > working
> > > > > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> http://app.phonegap.com
but they do some
> > > proxying
> > > > to
> > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > > > around
> > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> CORS
limitations I believe.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Marcel
> > Kinard <
> > > > > > > > > > > > cmarcelk@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
I've been getting occasional questions
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
about
> > > users
> > > > > > > trying
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > use
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> remotely-loaded
(non-local) HTML pages with
> > > Cordova
> > > > > (in
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > webview,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> InAppBrowser),
and still expecting to have
> > access
> > > to
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > plugin
> > > > > > > > > > > APIs
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> (camera
is a popular one). My response so
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> far
> > is:
> > > > > "This
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > an
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> unsupported
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> configuration,
because Cordova was not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> designed
> > > for
> > > > > this
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> community
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> does no
testing of this configuration.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> While it
> > > can
> > > > > work
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> circumstances,
it is not recommended nor
> > > supported."
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
My definition of "unsupported" is not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
that it
> > is
> > > > > > > > incapable,
> > > > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> we
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> don't claim
that it is supposed to work,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> and
> > more
> > > > > > > > importantly,
> > > > > > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > > > > > > won't
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> actively
fix user-submitted defects on this
> > topic.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
The main concern I have on this is same
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
origin
> > > > > policy,
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > matching
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> remotely-served
cordova.js with the
> > > > locally-installed
> > > > > > > native
> > > > > > > > > > > Cordova
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> platform
to avoid version mismatch.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
Do you think I'm out in-the-weeds on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
this, or
> > do
> > > > you
> > > > > > > > agree?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
If you agree, what would you think of a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
blurb
> > in
> > > > > > > > > cordova-docs
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> somewhere
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> that captures
this gist?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
Thanks for your feedback!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
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