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From Lisa Seacat DeLuca <ldel...@us.ibm.com>
Subject Re: W3C Battery Feedback request
Date Fri, 08 Aug 2014 19:59:42 GMT
Thanks guys for chatting this up.  So if I understand correctly most of 
Joe's concerns were on the original version of the battery spec but the 
latest one with promises is okay? 


Lisa

Lisa Seacat DeLuca
Mobile Engineer | t: +415.787.4589 | ldeluca@apache.org | | 
ldeluca@us.ibm.com | lisaseacat.com | | 



From:   Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io>
To:     "dev@cordova.apache.org" <dev@cordova.apache.org>
Date:   08/07/2014 03:02 PM
Subject:        Re: W3C Battery Feedback request
Sent by:        brian.leroux@gmail.com



Plot thickens. Chrome has an experimental promises based API:

https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/dap/raw-file/default/battery/Overview.html

This is implementable.


On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io> wrote:

> ya, idk, even those I have problems with (meaningful strings)
>
> current spec has lots of listeners for various events though
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Jesse <purplecabbage@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> addEventListener or nothing
>> anyone can wrap it in a promise if they want
>>
>> @purplecabbage
>> risingj.com
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io> wrote:
>>
>> > bonus: https://gist.github.com/brianleroux/cc8b4adc0f9f0b7df654
>> >
>> > (I have no idea if this is the best way…not being a fan promises but
>> > willing to cede they have won this round.)
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io> wrote:
>> >
>> > > ah, sometimes you have read inbetween the lines w/ Joe's messaging
>> > >
>> > > he's right, it is broken, and he did state why: its a blocking API
>> > >
>> > > our feedback would be perhaps received better with a concrete
>> proposal:
>> > > throw out the current spec and rewrite it using DOM promises or
>> whatever
>> > > flavor of the month we have for async querying of data. the current
>> > > blocking API is not implementable by our bridge (async) so we can't 
do
>> > much
>> > > with it. ideally all web apis are async anyhow. ideally spec 
writers
>> know
>> > > this about the web and browsers, but alas.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 8:06 AM, Lisa Seacat DeLuca <
>> ldeluca@us.ibm.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Joe~
>> > >>
>> > >> Thank you for responding.  I just finished up sharing our thoughts

on
>> > the
>> > >> Device APIs Working Group status call.  They appreciate the 
overall
>> "it
>> > is
>> > >> broken" feedback but could really benefit from a concrete proposal

on
>> > how
>> > >> to improve the battery specification.  Do you, or anyone else from
>> the
>> > >> Cordova team, want to take a stab at putting together a formal
>> > >> proposal/recommendation that I can bring back to the DAP team? 
This
>> is
>> > an
>> > >> opportunity for us to help shape the spec!
>> > >>
>> > >> Here's a link to the current specification:
>> > >> http://www.w3.org/TR/battery-status/
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Lisa
>> > >>
>> > >> Lisa Seacat DeLuca
>> > >> Mobile Engineer | t: +415.787.4589 | *ldeluca@apache.org*
>> > >> <ldeluca@apache.org> | | *ldeluca@us.ibm.com* <ldeluca@us.ibm.com>

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>> > >> *lisaseacat.com* <http://www.lisaseacat.com/> | [image: follow
>> > >> @LisaSeacat on twitter] <http://www.twitter.com/LisaSeacat>|

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>> > >> follow Lisa Seacat DeLuca on linkedin]
>> > >> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/lisaseacat>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> From:        Joe Bowser <bowserj@gmail.com>
>> > >> To:        dev <dev@cordova.apache.org>
>> > >> Date:        08/06/2014 02:45 PM
>> > >> Subject:        Re: W3C Battery Feedback request
>> > >> ------------------------------
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> The spec is flawed in that there's no way we could implement it as

it
>> > >> stands. The spec needs to be reworked to be more event driven and
>> > >> asynchronous.   Right now it's too much like device with 
everything
>> up
>> > >> front.
>> > >>
>> > >> This is all based on memory, but the spec was seriously broken the
>> last
>> > >> time I looked.
>> > >> On Aug 5, 2014 10:12 AM, "Lisa Seacat DeLuca" <ldeluca@us.ibm.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> > I sent a note back in June asking if anyone had any feedback for
>> the
>> > >> > Device API's Working Group for the battery concerns that we had
>> > >> previously
>> > >> > voiced related to the battery spec.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> >
>> 
http://apache.markmail.org/search/?q=org.apache.incubator.callback-dev+list%3Aorg.apache.incubator.callback-dev+order%3Adate-backward+w3c+battery#query:org.apache.incubator.callback-dev%20list%3Aorg.apache.incubator.callback-dev%20order%3Adate-backward%20w3c%20battery+page:1+mid:ezvvipwdcvhlt5h6+state:results

>> > >> >
>> > >> > I need to update the DAP team on Thursday with any thoughts 
Cordova
>> > has
>> > >> so
>> > >> > if anyone has any feedback please reply asap.  The link to the
>> first
>> > >> email
>> > >> > has the questions from the DAP team to Cordova.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Thank you!
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Lisa
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Lisa Seacat DeLuca
>> > >> > Mobile Engineer | t: +415.787.4589 | *ldeluca@apache.org*
>> > >> > <ldeluca@apache.org> | | *ldeluca@us.ibm.com* 
<ldeluca@us.ibm.com>
>> |
>> > >> > *lisaseacat.com* <http://www.lisaseacat.com/> | [image:
follow
>> > >> > @LisaSeacat on twitter] <http://www.twitter.com/LisaSeacat>|
>> [image:
>> > >> > follow Lisa Seacat DeLuca on linkedin]
>> > >> > <http://www.linkedin.com/in/lisaseacat>
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> >
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