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From Ian Clelland <iclell...@chromium.org>
Subject Re: W3C Battery Feedback request
Date Thu, 07 Aug 2014 19:32:03 GMT
That spec *is* the one under discussion, as far as I can tell -- it's the
in-progress update to the old, busted, synchronous version that Joe very
rightfully bashed. There may still be other issues with it, but this is the
one that we should be commenting on.


On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io> wrote:

> Plot thickens. Chrome has an experimental promises based API:
>
> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/dap/raw-file/default/battery/Overview.html
>
> This is implementable.
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 11:08 AM, Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io> wrote:
>
> > ya, idk, even those I have problems with (meaningful strings)
> >
> > current spec has lots of listeners for various events though
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 11:00 AM, Jesse <purplecabbage@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> addEventListener or nothing
> >> anyone can wrap it in a promise if they want
> >>
> >> @purplecabbage
> >> risingj.com
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 10:57 AM, Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io> wrote:
> >>
> >> > bonus: https://gist.github.com/brianleroux/cc8b4adc0f9f0b7df654
> >> >
> >> > (I have no idea if this is the best way…not being a fan promises but
> >> > willing to cede they have won this round.)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > ah, sometimes you have read inbetween the lines w/ Joe's messaging
> >> > >
> >> > > he's right, it is broken, and he did state why: its a blocking API
> >> > >
> >> > > our feedback would be perhaps received better with a concrete
> >> proposal:
> >> > > throw out the current spec and rewrite it using DOM promises or
> >> whatever
> >> > > flavor of the month we have for async querying of data. the current
> >> > > blocking API is not implementable by our bridge (async) so we can't
> do
> >> > much
> >> > > with it. ideally all web apis are async anyhow. ideally spec writers
> >> know
> >> > > this about the web and browsers, but alas.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 8:06 AM, Lisa Seacat DeLuca <
> >> ldeluca@us.ibm.com>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Joe~
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Thank you for responding.  I just finished up sharing our thoughts
> on
> >> > the
> >> > >> Device APIs Working Group status call.  They appreciate the overall
> >> "it
> >> > is
> >> > >> broken" feedback but could really benefit from a concrete proposal
> on
> >> > how
> >> > >> to improve the battery specification.  Do you, or anyone else
from
> >> the
> >> > >> Cordova team, want to take a stab at putting together a formal
> >> > >> proposal/recommendation that I can bring back to the DAP team?
>  This
> >> is
> >> > an
> >> > >> opportunity for us to help shape the spec!
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Here's a link to the current specification:
> >> > >> http://www.w3.org/TR/battery-status/
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Lisa
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Lisa Seacat DeLuca
> >> > >> Mobile Engineer | t: +415.787.4589 | *ldeluca@apache.org*
> >> > >> <ldeluca@apache.org> | | *ldeluca@us.ibm.com* <ldeluca@us.ibm.com>
> |
> >> > >> *lisaseacat.com* <http://www.lisaseacat.com/> | [image:
follow
> >> > >> @LisaSeacat on twitter] <http://www.twitter.com/LisaSeacat>|
> [image:
> >> > >> follow Lisa Seacat DeLuca on linkedin]
> >> > >> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/lisaseacat>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> From:        Joe Bowser <bowserj@gmail.com>
> >> > >> To:        dev <dev@cordova.apache.org>
> >> > >> Date:        08/06/2014 02:45 PM
> >> > >> Subject:        Re: W3C Battery Feedback request
> >> > >> ------------------------------
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> The spec is flawed in that there's no way we could implement it
as
> it
> >> > >> stands. The spec needs to be reworked to be more event driven
and
> >> > >> asynchronous.   Right now it's too much like device with everything
> >> up
> >> > >> front.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> This is all based on memory, but the spec was seriously broken
the
> >> last
> >> > >> time I looked.
> >> > >> On Aug 5, 2014 10:12 AM, "Lisa Seacat DeLuca" <ldeluca@us.ibm.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > I sent a note back in June asking if anyone had any feedback
for
> >> the
> >> > >> > Device API's Working Group for the battery concerns that
we had
> >> > >> previously
> >> > >> > voiced related to the battery spec.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >>
> >> >
> >>
> http://apache.markmail.org/search/?q=org.apache.incubator.callback-dev+list%3Aorg.apache.incubator.callback-dev+order%3Adate-backward+w3c+battery#query:org.apache.incubator.callback-dev%20list%3Aorg.apache.incubator.callback-dev%20order%3Adate-backward%20w3c%20battery+page:1+mid:ezvvipwdcvhlt5h6+state:results
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > I need to update the DAP team on Thursday with any thoughts
> Cordova
> >> > has
> >> > >> so
> >> > >> > if anyone has any feedback please reply asap.  The link to
the
> >> first
> >> > >> email
> >> > >> > has the questions from the DAP team to Cordova.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Thank you!
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Lisa
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Lisa Seacat DeLuca
> >> > >> > Mobile Engineer | t: +415.787.4589 | *ldeluca@apache.org*
> >> > >> > <ldeluca@apache.org> | | *ldeluca@us.ibm.com* <
> ldeluca@us.ibm.com>
> >> |
> >> > >> > *lisaseacat.com* <http://www.lisaseacat.com/> | [image:
follow
> >> > >> > @LisaSeacat on twitter] <http://www.twitter.com/LisaSeacat>|
> >> [image:
> >> > >> > follow Lisa Seacat DeLuca on linkedin]
> >> > >> > <http://www.linkedin.com/in/lisaseacat>
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>

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