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From Lisa Seacat DeLuca <>
Subject Re: Apache Cordova "Translated using Microsoft Bing Translation"...
Date Thu, 05 Jun 2014 12:00:44 GMT
Just following up on this.  I haven't heard anyone from the Apache 
trademarks team chime in with this new updated request.  Please let me 
know if there are any problems so I know whether I can move forward 
working with Microsoft on enhancing our translation efforts for Apache 



Lisa Seacat DeLuca
Mobile Engineer | t: +415.787.4589 | | | | | | 

From:   Ross Gardler <>
To:     "" <>
Cc:     Lisa Seacat DeLuca/San Francisco/IBM@IBMUS, "Ross Gardler (MS OPEN 
TECH)" <>, "Olivier Bloch (MS OPEN TECH)" 
<>, Apache Brand Management <>, 
"Gianugo Rabellino (MS OPEN TECH)" <>
Date:   05/30/2014 08:19 PM
Subject:        Re: Apache Cordova "Translated using Microsoft Bing 


The ASF cannot grant open ended authorization for the trademarks. However,
as long as a) the Cordova PMC are comfortable with the proposed use and b)
it confirmed with the ASF trademark policy then there should be no problem
with this.

So, for example, approval to use the Cordova logo in case study should be
fine. Reuse of the logo when presenting that case study should be fine
(again, assuming conformance with the ASF trademark policy).

On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 14:40 PM, Olivier Fontana <>

Hi Cordova team,

In view of the limited volume requested we will waive the clause regarding
the use of the translation.

Therefore, the only requirements will be, as per our email exchange with

Attribution to the Microsoft Translator brand as per the description on in the "Attribution"

Apache Cordova team will provide Microsoft with the authorization to use
their logo as well as short text/sentence from their choosing that we will
be able to use for our marketing: website, customer presentations, etc.

Are we OK with this?

Thank you,



Olivier Fontana, Director of Product Marketing, Microsoft Translator

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*From:* Lisa Seacat DeLuca [

*Sent:* Thursday, May 29, 2014 13:41
*Cc:* Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH); Apache Brand Management; Olivier 
*Subject:* Re: Apache Cordova "Translated using Microsoft Bing

"Are we sure that we can use the machine translation from an IP
perspective? "

Yes, I spoke to Olivier Fontana (added to the CC list) who is the Director
of Product Strategy and Marketing, Machine Translation group, at Microsoft
Research about whether or not there were any
licensing concerns with the output of the documentation that went through
the Machine Translation tool and he said there was not an issue and that 
would still "own the content" as long as we didn't take the result to 
our own language model that might
be used as a competitor to Microsoft's machine translation service... 
we do not intend to do.

Lisa Seacat DeLuca
Mobile Engineer | t: +415.787.4589 | | | | <> | [image: follow @LisaSeacat 
twitter] <>|
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From:        David Nalley <>

To:        Apache Brand Management <>

Cc:        Cordova Dev <>, Ross Gardler <>

Date:        05/29/2014 04:15 PM

Subject:        Re: Apache Cordova "Translated using Microsoft Bing


On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 1:44 PM, Lisa Seacat DeLuca <>

Cordova/Apache Team~

As many of you are aware, we are using Crowdin to translate our
documentation into multiple languages.  When we are nearly 100% translated
we utilize some machine translation within the crowdin tool to finish off
the translations.  Currently we are using the
free level within Microsoft Translator service which includes 2 Million
characters a month.  As we add support for additional languages and 
translations across the multiple platforms and plugins we quickly hit that
2 million character limit.  I have
spoken with the Microsoft Translator team and they have graciously agreed
to support our project by providing us with the 64M character level a 
at no cost.  In return, they ask that we acknowledge the use of Microsoft
Translator for our translations.

*I'm writing to see if anyone sees any reason why this*

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