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Subject: Re: Proposal for cli and plugman code rearrangement
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Cruel.

The only difference in the Doodle between 2pm PST and 4pm+ PST is Jesse a=
nd Brian.

This won=E2=80=99t be forgotten. You two are on my list now ;)

4am on Good =46riday, here I come. Yay=3F

- tommy

On 17 April 2014 at 6:51:47 am, Mark Koudritsky (kamrik=40google.com) wro=
te:

Ok, according to the doodle <http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3> tomorrow=
 =20
14:00 Eastern =3D 11:00 Pacific seems to be an ok time. (I hope I got the=
 =20
time zones right). =20
Let's organized a hangout tomorrow. =20

=46or the calendars: =20
Thursday, April 17, 14:00 ET =20
Thursday, April 17, 11:00 PT =20


On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Brian LeRoux <b=40brian.io> wrote: =20

> To clear up my intent, I'm proposing =20
> =20
> 1. Keep the Plugman and Cordova/CLI as separate repos that we publish a=
s =20
> discreet modules (and use npm / package.json to manage deps) =20
> 2. Create a new placeholder repo for staging common module extraction =20
> called cordova-lib =20
> 3. Publish many modules from this one git repo called cordova-lib and =20
> prefix any module from it with =60cordova-lib=60 (for example =20
> cordova-lib-app-create would be a great module for sharing) =20
> 4. Evaluate if any modules can graduate from cordova-lib to more genera=
lly =20
> useful status and get their own git repos =20
> =20
> Thoughts=3F =20
> =20
> =20
> =20
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 12:28 PM, Carlos Santana <csantana23=40gmail.co=
m =20
> >wrote: =20
> =20
> > Brian =20
> > yep I agree with directory =22cordova-lib=22, =22node=5Fmodules=22, =22=
common=22. =20
> > =22common-lib=22 =20
> > I think we are on the same page. =20
> > =20
> > What do you mean by =22published=22=3F in =22-package.json (published=
 as =20
> > cordova-lib-plugin-install)=22 =20
> > =20
> > no actually publishing to npm registry, but just having a convention =
for =20
> > the naming of the modules all starting with =22cordova-lib-*=22 and m=
atching =20
> > location within repo=3F =20
> > =20
> > =7B =20
> > =22version=22: =220.0.1=22, =20
> > =22name=22: =22cordova-lib-plugin-install=22, =20
> > .. =20
> > =7D =20
> > =20
> > =7B =20
> > =22version=22: =220.0.1=22, =20
> > =22name=22: =22cordova-lib-util-a=22, =20
> > .. =20
> > =7D =20
> > =20
> > =20
> > =20
> > =20
> > =20
> > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Brian LeRoux <b=40brian.io> wrote: =20
> > =20
> > > I'm thinking a clean path might look something like this: =20
> > > =20
> > > plugman =20
> > > '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install =20
> > > =20
> > > cordova-cli =20
> > > '-package.json -> cordova-lib-plugin-install =20
> > > =20
> > > cordova-lib =20
> > > =7C-plugin-install =20
> > > =7C '-package.json (published as cordova-lib-plugin-install) =20
> > > etc =20
> > > =20
> > > Wherein all the 'meat' ends up in cordova-lib and plugman/cordova-c=
li =20
> > > become light CLI wrappers. I don't see any reason we change/remove =
the =20
> > > already extracted repos for the CLI and Plugman. =20
> > > =20
> > > =20
> > > =20
> > > =20
> > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Carlos Santana <csantana23=40gmai=
l.com =20
> > > >wrote: =20
> > > =20
> > > > I was going to suggest node=5Fmodules but I think it doesn't work=
 for =20
> us =20
> > > > since we have two top level npm pacakges. If one top level npm =20
> pacakge =20
> > in =20
> > > > the repo then its fine. =20
> > > > =20
> > > > =7Ccli =20
> > > > =7C '-package.json =20
> > > > =7C '-node=5Fmodules/util=5Fa =20
> > > > =7Cplugman =20
> > > > =7C '-package.json =20
> > > > =7C '-node=5Fmodules/util=5Fa =20
> > > > =20
> > > > means =22util=5Fa=22 will be duplicated in repo =20
> > > > plugman/node=5Fmodules/util=5Fa =20
> > > > cli/node=5Fmodules/util=5Fa =20
> > > > =20
> > > > or =20
> > > > if you have =20
> > > > node=5Fmodule/util=5Fa at the root, npm link ../node=5Fmodules/ut=
il=5Fa still =20
> > > needs =20
> > > > to be done for cli and plugman node modules. =20
> > > > =20
> > > > that's why I suggested to do the node=5Fmodules at dev/publish ti=
me to =20
> > > > populate the both node=5Fmodules one for cli and one for plugman =
=20
> > > > =20
> > > > Or maybe I missed something. =20
> > > > =20
> > > > The tag for smaller modules, might be tricky but at the same time=
 not =20
> > > > necessary if they are consider bundle/private and living in same =
repo =20
> > > > =20
> > > > Thanks Brian for putting the question out there on twitter =20
> interesting =20
> > > > feedback. =20
> > > > =20
> > > > --Carlos =20
> > > > =20
> > > > =20
> > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Brian LeRoux <b=40brian.io> wrot=
e: =20
> > > > =20
> > > > > I thought the node=5Fmodules comment might have been cheeky. =20
> > (Suggesting =20
> > > we =20
> > > > > use npm to manage deps.) =20
> > > > > =20
> > > > > Crap. Totally forgot about Good =46riday. I have a one hour win=
dow =20
> open =20
> > > on =20
> > > > > Thu. =3D( =20
> > > > > =20
> > > > > =20
> > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Mark Koudritsky < =20
> kamrik=40google.com =20
> > > =20
> > > > > wrote: =20
> > > > > =20
> > > > > > The tip about placing the deps under node=5Fmodules right awa=
y =20
> sounds =20
> > > > very =20
> > > > > > useful. This way the dev environment will be ready right afte=
r =20
> git =20
> > > > clone; =20
> > > > > > npm install with no extra magic. =20
> > > > > > =20
> > > > > > This =46riday is a holiday in Canada (Good =46riday). =20
> > > > > > =20
> > > > > > =20
> > > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Steven Gill < =20
> > stevengill97=40gmail.com =20
> > > > =20
> > > > > > wrote: =20
> > > > > > =20
> > > > > > > Git tags are not something we have talked about yet. Thanks=
 for =20
> > > > sharing =20
> > > > > > > Brian=21 =20
> > > > > > > =20
> > > > > > > =20
> > > > > > > =20
> > > > > > > =20
> > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Brian LeRoux <b=40brian.i=
o> =20
> > wrote: =20
> > > > > > > =20
> > > > > > > > hey guys could we add =46ri to that doodle=3F =20
> > > > > > > > =20
> > > > > > > > =20
> > > > > > > > I asked around for opinions and got some interesting =20
> responses =20
> > to =20
> > > > add =20
> > > > > > to =20
> > > > > > > > the discussion: =20
> > > > > > > > =20
> > > > > > > > https://twitter.com/brianleroux/status/456242928298381312=
 =20
> > > > > > > > =20
> > > > > > > > (Nothing really negative or positive.) =20
> > > > > > > > =20
> > > > > > > > =20
> > > > > > > > On Apr 15, 2014 6:34 PM, =22Andrew Grieve=22 < =20
> agrieve=40chromium.org =20
> > > =20
> > > > > wrote: =20
> > > > > > > > =20
> > > > > > > > > We didn't have time to cover this today, but I think it=
's =20
> > > better =20
> > > > > off =20
> > > > > > > > > as its own hangout anyways. =20
> > > > > > > > > =20
> > > > > > > > > Created a doodle for Wed/Thurs. Add yourself if you'd l=
ike =20
> to =20
> > > > > > > > > participate in the discussion. =20
> > > > > > > > > =20
> > > > > > > > > http://doodle.com/uvyr9454pvepz3a3 =20
> > > > > > > > > =20
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Mark Koudritsky < =20
> > > > > kamrik=40google.com =20
> > > > > > > =20
> > > > > > > > > wrote: =20
> > > > > > > > > > A short proposal< =20
> > > > > > > > > =20
> > > > > > > > =20
> > > > > > > =20
> > > > > > =20
> > > > > =20
> > > > =20
> > > =20
> > =20
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GVtG6BD266dqRURKaS-GEDefb0tBYt56acx=
rJEKAfmE/edit =20
> > > > > > > > > > =20
> > > > > > > > > > for =20
> > > > > > > > > > how to rearrange cli and plugman code. Let's discuss =
it =20
> > > during =20
> > > > > the =20
> > > > > > > > > hangout =20
> > > > > > > > > > today. =46eel free to comment. =20
> > > > > > > > > =20
> > > > > > > > =20
> > > > > > > =20
> > > > > > =20
> > > > > =20
> > > > =20
> > > > =20
> > > > =20
> > > > -- =20
> > > > Carlos Santana =20
> > > > <csantana23=40gmail.com> =20
> > > > =20
> > > =20
> > =20
> > =20
> > =20
> > -- =20
> > Carlos Santana =20
> > <csantana23=40gmail.com> =20
> > =20
> =20


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