Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-cordova-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-cordova-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8923C116D1 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 15:16:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 2041 invoked by uid 500); 22 Apr 2014 15:16:49 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cordova-dev-archive@cordova.apache.org Received: (qmail 1962 invoked by uid 500); 22 Apr 2014 15:16:48 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cordova.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@cordova.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cordova.apache.org Received: (qmail 1954 invoked by uid 99); 22 Apr 2014 15:16:48 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 15:16:48 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of bowserj@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.181 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.220.181] (HELO mail-vc0-f181.google.com) (209.85.220.181) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 15:16:43 +0000 Received: by mail-vc0-f181.google.com with SMTP id id10so2690078vcb.26 for ; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 08:16:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=zd5/iUcGsQLKc6jtFb2AYXgXYdqAe4rfXxfEXGN9Vo0=; b=1E2zS6jovb9S81LsmfqNuqqW1WNIj7l2HHhFVQebbcsuEcCPuzstHUFN1it31sBdUo L3lDNkR05epMqtaQP4kSaPxBviWnzLsDE9Klxd3/KMoXNaveepB4TMK7oh1hXQ6Ud+Hq IAj9VrWFzIHqEW3I7nilCiZd9Ua2ha16GvuAiByExXpQyCSz6e21LfWUcgLt5nJVDA+4 3k9aA4MHbVCtV2drsrMmNHVpntliNqPPgPFzrv24NoQgYmhaxbcIlH5K8Woxk6qYa0kh bkBI+cjFL3edVrPPFkUwpSYpiIPhPzRXmkDFR3DcEs/7kYGRgOuqONLGSSk+cNqQlrwj xJEg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.195.202 with SMTP id ig10mr1528699vec.33.1398179781288; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 08:16:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.241.208 with HTTP; Tue, 22 Apr 2014 08:16:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2014 08:16:21 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Discuss] The Future of Ripple as a Top Level ASF Project From: Joe Bowser To: dev Cc: "dev@ripple.incubator.apache.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 7:30 AM, Brent Lintner wrote: > Hey All, > > Since becoming an incubator project (being donated graciously by > BlackBerry), Ripple has seen positive contributions. > > However, it is also apparent that the community does not seem large enough > to sustain a project like this as a top level project (let alone an > individual PMC). > > Three of the original contributors/creators of Ripple are now fully > involved in a new technology startup in an unrelated field and therefore we > no longer have the resources to support Ripple in ASF. Also, BlackBerry has > given no resources to help since donating Ripple to the ASF (this might be > due to a change in their internal priorities). > > Given this, I would like to propose: > > 1. We find more community members willing to lead committership of the > project, and see how that goes. > > 2. We also consider the eventuality of folding Ripple into another ASF > project, if possible. If so, it would seem Cordova is a candidate for this, > especially given the project being one of Ripple's main focus and support. > If the community votes for this, we should involve the Cordova community to > gage their interests as well (I've CC'd their mailing list in this email). I'd +1 this. I'd like to see Ripple live on in some form if people are still using it, even though I don't use it personally. > > 3. If the above does not work out, I would then suggest we consider the > most unfortunate (put perhaps prudent) eventuality, which is to "fail" > Ripple as an incubator project. "fail" is this case, not being negative. > So, Incubator projects can't go into the Attic? That's what the ASF does with projects that become inactive after they leave incubator. I'm sure the ASF doesn't want to get into the habit of taking abandoned projects and shoving everything into the attic, so I'd rather see it get included in Cordova as one of the less active repositories.