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From: Steven Gill <stevengill97@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 15:50:59 -0700
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Subject: Re: support on phonegap/cordova?
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I added it as support under development in quicklinks. I can move it if you
feel that is more appropriate.


On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Michal Mocny <mmocny@chromium.org> wrote:

> Steven, thanks for the change.  Would you mind also adding SO to the list
> of quick links under General?
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 2:45 PM, Steven Gill <stevengill97@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > This is complete now. Let me know if you guy see any other stuff I should
> > change.
> >
> > I didn't see a reference to the phonegap irc channel on the site.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Michal Mocny <mmocny@chromium.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Fantastic, thanks Steven.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Steven Gill <stevengill97@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I was just creating an issue and was about to do it :P
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Michal Mocny <mmocny@chromium.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Okay okay, so who is going to update the website?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Carlos Santana <
> > csantana23@gmail.com
> > > > > >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I think having a user@ can be created, but in practice no value
> > add
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. users will not use it (for various reasons already mentioned
> in
> > > this
> > > > > > thread)
> > > > > > 2. committers and subject matter experts will not use it to
> answer
> > > > > > questions (if they do, just to copy paste a template "use jira or
> > > SO")
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If the problem is that we don't trust SO to be there tomorrow and
> > go
> > > > > > offline, then lets implement an archive that backups all
> questions
> > > and
> > > > > > answers tag with "cordova" and for that matter also backup the
> > > phonegap
> > > > > > google group :-).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > IMHO I think SO and google groups are reliable ecosystems and
> they
> > > will
> > > > > not
> > > > > > go down tomorrow, and if they are not around in 50 years that's
> > fine
> > > if
> > > > > at
> > > > > > least they are around for 6 months which is I think how long
> people
> > > > have
> > > > > > current issues and problems that are relevant to this project.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Joe Bowser <bowserj@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:33 AM, Shane Curcuru <
> > > asf@shanecurcuru.org
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > (not subscribed to list)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Terrence brings up a critical point about how the Apache Way
> > > works:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I knew that the "Apache Way" would be mentioned.  Every time we
> > > have
> > > > > > > to do something that makes no sense, hurts or users, it's
> because
> > > of
> > > > > > > "The Apache Way"!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The fact is that our users are not technically adept and I
> doubt
> > > that
> > > > > > > they could find a Cordova users list, and that if they found
> > such a
> > > > > > > users list, most of them would eventually be stuck on that list
> > > > > > > forever because they wouldn't know how to unsubscribe from that
> > > list.
> > > > > > > Also, searching for anything on the archives of the Apache
> lists
> > is
> > > > > > > extremely painful, and the only times I've seen that happen is
> > when
> > > > > > > malicious Apache members want to go and smear the crap out of
> the
> > > > > > > project finding every time I've bashed the ASF and "the Apache
> > > Way".
> > > > > > > I think most of our users will get frustrated by markmail and
> > will
> > > > > > > either ask the same thing over and over again, even though it's
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > > docs or just leave.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Can we for once actually think of our users and not how to mess
> > > them
> > > > > > > over with "The Apache Way"?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Carlos Santana
> > > > > > <csantana23@gmail.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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