Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-cordova-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-cordova-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CC8CF1158B for ; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 15:30:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 42926 invoked by uid 500); 30 Apr 2014 15:30:29 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cordova-dev-archive@cordova.apache.org Received: (qmail 42900 invoked by uid 500); 30 Apr 2014 15:30:29 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cordova.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@cordova.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cordova.apache.org Received: (qmail 42892 invoked by uid 99); 30 Apr 2014 15:30:28 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 15:30:28 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_HELO_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: unknown (nike.apache.org: error in processing during lookup of raycamde@adobe.com) Received: from [207.46.163.244] (HELO na01-by2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com) (207.46.163.244) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 15:30:23 +0000 Received: from BY2PR02MB283.namprd02.prod.outlook.com (10.242.236.149) by BY2PR02MB282.namprd02.prod.outlook.com (10.242.236.146) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.929.12; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 15:29:56 +0000 Received: from BY2PR02MB283.namprd02.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.9.130]) by BY2PR02MB283.namprd02.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.9.130]) with mapi id 15.00.0929.001; Wed, 30 Apr 2014 15:29:56 +0000 From: Ray Camden To: "dev@cordova.apache.org" Subject: RE: Some pain points from our users :'( Thread-Topic: Some pain points from our users :'( Thread-Index: AQHPYxAwmwCy61QDbE6uS00rTV6tKZsnXxUAgAAdmoCAAWeQAIAAFkUAgAAOE4CAARxZ0oAAJQKAgAABTM0= Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 15:29:55 +0000 Message-ID: <1398871792945.53927@adobe.com> References: <744C9874-AAA1-4941-8290-283A061D28F8@gmail.com> , <1398863495910.44848@adobe.com>,<5330CB9A-0138-4291-9E6D-3F40A1863696@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5330CB9A-0138-4291-9E6D-3F40A1863696@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [209.226.201.242] x-forefront-prvs: 0197AFBD92 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM;SFS:(10019001)(6009001)(428001)(189002)(199002)(377454003)(24454002)(66066001)(80022001)(50986999)(36756003)(99286001)(92726001)(83072002)(85852003)(92566001)(99396002)(86362001)(20776003)(87936001)(2656002)(76176999)(54356999)(101416001)(19580395003)(19580405001)(80976001)(4396001)(79102001)(83322001)(77982001)(74502001)(74662001)(31966008)(46102001)(76482001)(81342001)(81542001);DIR:OUT;SFP:1102;SCL:1;SRVR:BY2PR02MB282;H:BY2PR02MB283.namprd02.prod.outlook.com;FPR:BDD7F359.14EA9821.F9DD2F7B.ACF9C959.201D1;MLV:sfv;PTR:InfoNoRecords;MX:1;A:1;LANG:en; received-spf: None (: adobe.com does not designate permitted sender hosts) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: adobe.com X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Any particular place? Sorry if obvious - but it would need to be a github r= epo multiple folks can edit. (Seems like that would be quicker than PRs imo= .)=0A= ________________________________________=0A= From: Marcel Kinard =0A= Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 10:22 AM=0A= To: dev@cordova.apache.org=0A= Subject: Re: Some pain points from our users :'(=0A= =0A= How about using a short-term wiki page to create/grow the draft? Then it co= uld migrate into cordova-docs.git.=0A= =0A= Getting to the end of the Cordova docs with a working helloWorld, and then = having signposts for the next places to go would be a significant gain in t= he perceived usability of Cordova. Ray, thank you!=0A= =0A= On Apr 30, 2014, at 9:11 AM, Ray Camden wrote:=0A= =0A= > I'd love to take a stab at this. Where would be a good place for to post = a draft that folks could edit and the Cordova team could just take it over = when happy?=0A= =0A=