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From Ian Clelland <iclell...@chromium.org>
Subject Re: [Android] Refactoring for different engines
Date Wed, 23 Apr 2014 17:31:34 GMT
I've managed to get this up and running now -- great work on this, Joe!

Mobilespec runs on my N4, with 10 failing tests: 3 in contacts; 7 in
file-transfer. Otherwise, things seem to be working pretty well.

I used a new build of Crosswalk, and found that the embedding API has
changed since the weekend (when Ningxin's patches applied). I've issued a
pull request at
https://github.com/infil00p/cordova-crosswalk-engine/pull/5for it --
I'm not sure if there's a way to keep compatibility with last
week's Crosswalk, or if we'd even want to. (Ningxin, if you could take a
look at that PR and see if it makes sense, I'd appreciate it)

Joe, I also had to patch the default constructor for XWalkCordovaWebView;
it wasn't creating its own client objects, so it got the default ones, and
most of the tests were failing because some component of the bridge wan't
working. https://github.com/infil00p/cordova-crosswalk-engine/pull/4 is out
for that.

Count me in for the hangout -- this is exciting stuff

Ian


On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io> wrote:

> Yup I'll track em down
> On Apr 23, 2014 7:17 AM, "Andrew Grieve" <agrieve@chromium.org> wrote:
>
> > Does anyone have a contact at moz that we could invite?
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:09 AM, Andrew Grieve <agrieve@chromium.org>
> > wrote:
> > > Depends on their interest level I think. Faster we can get this out
> > > the door the better. If we need to delay for geckoview, then I don't
> > > think we should gate on it, just release it after.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 3:01 AM, Tommy Williams <tommy@devgeeks.org>
> > wrote:
> > >> More engines, more better...
> > >> On 23 Apr 2014 16:32, "Joe Bowser" <bowserj@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hey
> > >>>
> > >>> A Hangout would have to happen on Friday at the earliest.  It'd be
> > good if
> > >>> we could get someone from Mozilla on the hangout as well.  I haven't
> > gotten
> > >>> MozillaView (GeckoView with Cordova methods) fully working yet.  For
> > some
> > >>> reason it's not rendering on the screen.
> > >>>
> > >>> Ideally it'd be cool to have at least two options when this feature
> > finally
> > >>> lands.
> > >>>
> > >>> What do other people think?
> > >>>
> > >>> Joe
> > >>> On 22 Apr 2014 20:06, "Hu, Ningxin" <ningxin.hu@intel.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> > Joe,
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Thanks for your review and merge the PRs.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > To pluggable webview interest group:
> > >>> > Are we OK to setup a hangout this week for initial introduction
and
> > >>> > discussion of next steps?
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Thanks,
> > >>> > -ningxin
> > >>> >
> > >>> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >>> > > From: Hu, Ningxin [mailto:ningxin.hu@intel.com]
> > >>> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2014 4:04 PM
> > >>> > > To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> > >>> > > Subject: RE: [Android] Refactoring for different engines
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > The PoC is great! Quite excited about the direction!
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > I've sent a PR to update the cordova-crosswalk-engine to
latest
> > >>> crosswalk
> > >>> > > embedding API. It works with xwalk_core_library at 6.35.124.0.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > I've also changed the CordovaWebView interface slightly (adding
> > >>> > getView() API)
> > >>> > > to allow XWalkCordovaWebView to composite a XWalkView instead
of
> > >>> > extending
> > >>> > > it. It resolves some API naming issues for XWalkView case.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Please review them at:
> > >>> > > https://github.com/infil00p/cordova-crosswalk-engine/pull/3
> > >>> > > https://github.com/infil00p/cordova-android/pull/2
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Thanks,
> > >>> > > -ningxin
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > >>> > > > From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
> > >>> > > > Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 12:45 AM
> > >>> > > > To: dev
> > >>> > > > Subject: Re: [Android] Refactoring for different engines
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > Yeah, I'd be cool with setting up a hangout.  Everyone
should
> > take a
> > >>> > > > look at the PoC, I've basically distilled it down to
four or
> five
> > >>> > > > classes so far, but with some work, we may be able to
get it
> > down to
> > >>> > > > three.  Due to legacy, we're pretty stuck with the Android
> > WebView
> > >>> API
> > >>> > calls,
> > >>> > > but these can probably be modified.
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > It'd be good to get Mozilla people on the call as well,
since
> > they
> > >>> > > > have their WebView as well.
> > >>> > > >
> > >>> > > > On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Hu, Ningxin <
> > ningxin.hu@intel.com>
> > >>> > wrote:
> > >>> > > > > Hangout would be a good idea.
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > > FYI, I will be off next week. How about the week
after next?
> > If it
> > >>> > > > > works, please
> > >>> > > > feel free to schedule one and count me in.
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > > Thanks,
> > >>> > > > > -ningxin
> > >>> > > > >
> > >>> > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> > > > >> From: mmocny@google.com [mailto:mmocny@google.com]
On
> Behalf
> > Of
> > >>> > > > >> Michal Mocny
> > >>> > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 11:39 PM
> > >>> > > > >> To: dev
> > >>> > > > >> Subject: Re: [Android] Refactoring for different
engines
> > >>> > > > >>
> > >>> > > > >> Would it be alright to set up a Hangout some
time to
> introduce
> > >>> > everyone?
> > >>> > > > >>
> > >>> > > > >> Joe has been leading the effort here, but there
are other
> > cordova
> > >>> > > > >> contributors for whom this is top priority.
 It would be
> nice
> > if
> > >>> we
> > >>> > > > >> could all meet to say hello and make sure we
are all going
> in
> > the
> > >>> > > > >> right
> > >>> > > > direction.
> > >>> > > > >>
> > >>> > > > >> Quite exciting!
> > >>> > > > >>
> > >>> > > > >> -Michal
> > >>> > > > >>
> > >>> > > > >>
> > >>> > > > >> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Hu, Ningxin
<
> > >>> ningxin.hu@intel.com>
> > >>> > > wrote:
> > >>> > > > >>
> > >>> > > > >> > Joe, thanks for this. I am very excited.
> > >>> > > > >> >
> > >>> > > > >> > FYI. Crosswalk team is working on refactoring
the WebView
> > API to
> > >>> > > > >> > support embedding usage better [1]. (Previously
the layer
> > API
> > >>> was
> > >>> > > > >> > not exposed as public usage).
> > >>> > > > >> >
> > >>> > > > >> > I would like to review the PoC and work
with you to get
> > >>> Crosswalk
> > >>> > > > >> > fits into the pluggable WebView architecture.
> > >>> > > > >> >
> > >>> > > > >> > Thanks,
> > >>> > > > >> > -ningxin
> > >>> > > > >> >
> > >>> > > > >> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >>> > > > >> > > From: Joe Bowser [mailto:bowserj@gmail.com]
> > >>> > > > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 7:08
AM
> > >>> > > > >> > > To: dev
> > >>> > > > >> > > Subject: Re: [Android] Refactoring
for different engines
> > >>> > > > >> > >
> > >>> > > > >> > > Hey
> > >>> > > > >> > >
> > >>> > > > >> > > After debugging, I did some minor
updates to the plugin
> > >>> README.
> > >>> > > > >> > > It
> > >>> > > > >> > should be
> > >>> > > > >> > > easier to get this up and running,
although there's
> still
> > the
> > >>> > > > >> > > issue of
> > >>> > > > >> > after-install
> > >>> > > > >> > > hooks and the relative path weirdness
with the Crosswalk
> > >>> > Library itself.
> > >>> > > > >> > >
> > >>> > > > >> > > It still doesn't support the CLI
at all, but it should
> be
> > >>> there
> > >>> > > > >> > > with the
> > >>> > > > >> > old flow.
> > >>> > > > >> > >
> > >>> > > > >> > > On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 1:14 PM,
Michal Mocny
> > >>> > > > >> > > <mmocny@chromium.org>
> > >>> > > > >> > > wrote:
> > >>> > > > >> > > > (Sorry Joe, Googlers are down
in California and way
> > busy.
> > >>> > > > >> > > > Will be back in a week.  Super
excited about this,
> > though.)
> > >>> > > > >> > > >
> > >>> > > > >> > > > -Michal
> > >>> > > > >> > > >
> > >>> > > > >> > > >
> > >>> > > > >> > > > On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 2:53
PM, Joe Bowser
> > >>> > > > >> > > > <bowserj@gmail.com>
> > >>> > > > >> wrote:
> > >>> > > > >> > > >
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> Reviving this thread!
> > >>> > > > >> > > >>
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> Can other people look at
this, and see if/when we
> > should
> > >>> > land this?
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> I know that I have to re-write
the tests still, but I
> > would
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> like some feedback before
merging it in.  Also, it'd
> be
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> super awesome if other people
could try and make a
> > WebView
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> based on the interfaces
and recommend which methods
> > should
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> die.  I want to get this
released in the next month
> or
> > so,
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> so any time and feedback
would be greatly
> appreciated.
> > >>> > > > >> > > >>
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> Thanks
> > >>> > > > >> > > >>
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at
3:50 PM, Joe Bowser
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> <bowserj@gmail.com>
> > >>> > > > >> > wrote:
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> > Hey, I created the
following today to track various
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> > WebView
> > >>> > > > >> > progresses:
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-6246
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> > I also have this repo
created.  The licensing is
> > ugly as
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> > all crap, but it's
a Proof-Of-Concept:
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >
> https://github.com/infil00p/cordova-crosswalk-engine
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> > If I can get some help
getting plugman to just load
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> > Crosswalk, it'll
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> look hawt.
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> > BTW: We should probably
get this ready to go into
> > Android
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> > in the next two months
and deprecate the
> setProperty
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> > methods, since all
properties should be preferences
> > in
> > >>> > config.xml
> > >>> > > now.
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> > On Mon, Mar 10, 2014
at 2:42 PM, Joe Bowser
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> > <bowserj@gmail.com>
> > >>> > > > >> > > wrote:
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >> Perhaps. There
would be additional benefits to
> this
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >> approach, namely
fixes being added to that
> platform
> > more
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >> quickly.  I'll
probably take a look at that once I
> > have
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >> Crosswalk
> > >>> > > > finalized.
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >> On Mon, Mar 10,
2014 at 9:49 AM, Brian LeRoux
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >> <b@brian.io>
> > >>> > > > wrote:
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>> this is great
stuff
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>> do we think
it may be possible to bring in amazon
> > >>> fireos
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>> stuff
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> eventually
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>> too?
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>> On Fri, Mar
7, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Joe Bowser
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>> <bowserj@gmail.com>
> > >>> > > > >> > wrote:
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> BTW: I
committed it in my repo, not the main
> > Apache
> > >>> one.
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>>
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> On Fri,
Mar 7, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Joe Bowser
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> <bowserj@gmail.com>
> > >>> > > > >> > > wrote:
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > Hey
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > I
just committed some code based on their
> > WebView
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > modifications
that allows you to choose your
> > >>> renderer
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > in
the
> > >>> > > > >> > config file
> > >>> > > > >> > > with this:
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >  
  <preference name="webView"
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >
> > >>> value="org.apache.cordova.engine.crosswalk.XWalkCordo
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > va
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > Web
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > View
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > "
/>
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > You
currently have to copy over the *.pak file
> > and
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > the
jsapi from a Crosswalk Example project to
> > get
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > this
to work.  The next thing that I'm going
> to
> > do
> > >>> is
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > figure
out how to write this as a plugin and
> > have it
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > install
on a default
> > >>> > > > project.
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > Also,
right now the bridge doesn't seem to
> > work, and
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > I
don't know why exactly.  That being said,
> the
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> fact
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > that
I can choose which version of
> > Chrome/Chromium
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > I'm
running with
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> a
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > single
XML preference is HUGE.
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > There's
definitely a lot more work that needs
> > to be
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > done,
but as
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> long
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > as
we have something that we can fit into the
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > interface,
we should
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> be
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > able
to put in things like GeckoView or other
> > third
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > party
> > >>> > > > >> > renderers.
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > The
nightmare of being stuck with bullshit
> > WebView
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > bugs
may soon be over.
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > On
Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Michal Mocny
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> > <mmocny@chromium.org>
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> wrote:
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>
> > >>> https://github.com/crosswalk-project/crosswalk-cordo
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>
va
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>
-an
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>
droi
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>
d
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>
First patch they landed, which claims to have
> > min
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>
viable xwalk
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> webview:
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>>
> > >>> > > > >> > > >>
> > >>> https://github.com/crosswalk-project/crosswalk-cordova-andro
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> id
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> /co
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> mmit
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> /a04dedeb0204e7542d190312c6ae70c795a26e04
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 11:37 PM, Michal Mocny
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>
<mmocny@chromium.org
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> wrote:
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>
I haven't looked yet, but did you see:
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>
> > >>> https://crosswalk-project.org/#wiki/crosswalk-cordo
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>
va
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>
-an
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>
droi
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>
d
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>
?
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 10:20 PM, Andrew
> > Grieve <
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> agrieve@chromium.org
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >wrote:
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
First - very excited that you're working on
> > this!
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
Had a quick look. Not sure there's much to
> be
> > >>> > gleaned
> > >>> > > yet.
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
Once
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> you
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> start
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
in on hooking up x-walk's webview I think
> it
> > will
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
become more
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> obvious
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> what
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
the interface should look like. E.g., does
> > x-walk
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
even have the
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> concept
of
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
ChromeClient vs WebViewClient vs WebView?
> > Also
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
unsure whether the
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> class
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
should extend android.View as well as
> > implement
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
our
> > >>> > > > >> > interface.
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> E.g.
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
alternative is to have a "getView()" method
> > on
> > >>> the
> > >>> > > > >> > interface.
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> Might
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> help
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
to
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
cut down on file sizes, and API surface,
> but
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
again, I'm not too
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> sure.
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
I've been pretty hesitant to touch existing
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
exposed members
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> (e.g. the
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
public fields you were referring to) since
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
touching anything
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> public
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> could
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
break plugins. That said, maybe now is a
> good
> > >>> time
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
to @deprecate
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> a
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> bunch
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
of
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
them and either replace them with getters,
> or
> > >>> just
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
declare them
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> to be
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> not
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
exposed to plugins.
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Joe Bowser
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
<bowserj@gmail.com>
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> wrote:
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> So, after looking at the Crosswalk code
> > again,
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> I've decided to
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> take
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> a
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> quick stab at making things pluggable.  I
> > don't
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> have a lot to
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> show
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> for
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> it, but with the help of Eclipse (which
> is
> > why
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> the generated interfaces look so screwed
> > up), I
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> managed to create some
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> interfaces
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> so
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> we can start shoehorning in other browser
> > >>> > renderers.
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
>
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
>
> > >>> > > > >> > > >>
> > >>> https://github.com/infil00p/cordova-android/tree/pluggable_w
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> eb
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> vie
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> w
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
>
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> I'm going to probably start with
> Crosswalk,
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> because it's
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> probably
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> the
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> most mature primary candidate in the
> > Android
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> Third-Party
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> WebView
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> thing, and I'm pretty sure the GeckoView
> > will
> > >>> be
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> happening
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> shortly
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> after.
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
>
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> I don't know how this would work w.r.t.
> > the CLI
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> or our
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> workflow at
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> all, but at the moment, I really just
> want
> > to
> > >>> at
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> least start
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> to have
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> some headway towards 4.x and PhoneGap
> day.
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
>
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> What do people think of this so far? I'm
> > going
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> to try to clean
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> things
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> up a bit, since we've definitely done a
> > lot of
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> things that
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> would
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> make
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> first year CS profs freak the hell out
> > (i.e.
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> public members in
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> public
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> objects w.r.t. PluginManager).
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
>
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> Thoughts?
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
>
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> Joe
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
>
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>>
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>> >>>
> > >>> > > > >> > > >> >>>>
> > >>> > > > >> > > >>
> > >>> > > > >> >
> > >>> >
> > >>>
> >
>

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