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From Michal Mocny <mmo...@chromium.org>
Subject Re: Some pain points from our users :'(
Date Mon, 28 Apr 2014 19:15:53 GMT
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On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Michal Mocny <mmocny@chromium.org> wrote:

> I think this particular users' frustration is not addressable (and his
> feedback in places is just annoying:  "you work for X and I demand that you
> should have the money to do everything for me").
> He hasn't maintained his project for 2 years, hasn't read our docs, hasn't
> written tests to guard against platform assumptions, and expects to update
> everything in a few hours.
> There are a few issues he got hit with (plugin authoring with the CLI is a
> pain in the butt, 3.4 release plugin docs issue), but generally its
> probably not worth putting to much weight into it.
>
> More broadly, though, perhaps we should acknowledge that we will never
> catch all issues with releases and try to find ways to incentivize the
> community to help test out RC's for us?  Perhaps a dedicated mailing list
> for known developers who stay bleeding edge that we email as part of
> starting the release vote process / at the end of [DISCUSS] thread?
>
> -Michal
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 2:54 PM, Shazron <shazron@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> We come with a (framework) developer's perspective, thus an echo chamber.
>> The comments may or may not be fair but the users do encounter pain, and I
>> think it does help in identifying issues we missed (reading from the list
>> overall). Canary in the coal mine, etc.
>>
>> Filing issues etc ideal, but some, for whatever reason, do not like that
>> type of forum, but still choose the Google Groups.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io> wrote:
>>
>> > I feel the comments there are not really constructive or fair. Cordova
>> > changes too much? Sorry, static code means bitrot aka abandonware.
>> >
>> > We work on Cordova because we are improving it for the many thousands of
>> > our users whom appreciate that. I don't need to tell you guys that but
>> 1.8
>> > was a mess compared to 3.x and if you are only updating YOUR userland
>> > source once every 2 years and you don't expect it to be come with
>> > problems?! The bugs found usually are not introduced by us but with
>> Xcode,
>> > iOS, or Android and we are FIXING those things with updates.
>> >
>> > Docs are a problem but as they say patches welcome. This is the sort of
>> > entitled complaint that lead me off that list.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Shazron <shazron@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > See:
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/phonegap/II0qo-dSFWs/Fj8jkemGSbUJ
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>

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