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From Michal Mocny <>
Subject Re: Nomination for a new chair for Apache Cordova
Date Wed, 23 Apr 2014 14:40:46 GMT
On topic: Big +1 to Shaz, a perfect fit.  Also, thank you Brian for your
efforts over the years and your work bringing the project through
incubation.  Thank you also for taking the decision to pass the torch.

Off topic: Joe and Jim, please may you each put up email filters for the
others' comments?  Its almost entirely you two trolls yelling at each
other, throwing salt in wounds, in every thread about cordova vs apache
(actually they should be called Joe vs Jim threads).  The problems with our
PMC and the Board are being blown way, way out of proportion I think.


On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Jim Jagielski <> wrote:

> On Apr 22, 2014, at 10:36 PM, Brian LeRoux <> wrote:
> >  Some of the Apache rules are build up of old
> > policy that has become meaningless ceremony.
> This is not true. If you can provide examples of such "meaningless
> ceremony" that still exists, please mention them. They will either
> get removed, fixed or explained.
> FWIW, ALL policy has a basis in actual, tangible benefits
> to the community. Believe it or not, we are as anti-
> meaningless ceremony as you are. Why would we not
> be?? We are all people who develop and hack. We are
> not bureaucrats by choice or desire; we were *asked*
> to take on bureaucratic roles so that other developers
> didn't have to. And we care enough about the ASF to
> do so, and add those duties onto our numerous other
> duties as developers, committers, developers, PMC members, etc...

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