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From Andrew Grieve <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Automate signed icla to git commits
Date Mon, 28 Apr 2014 16:20:43 GMT
Interesting! Going by this description, it sounds like we wound't need
ICLAs for the majority of pull requests since pull requests details get
forwarded to the mailing-list.

New proposal: don't worry about CLAs at release time.

On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 5:43 PM, Marvin Humphrey <>wrote:

> On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Jesse <> wrote:
> > We can accept trivial commits without an ICLA, so the commit hook would
> > need a firm definition of 'trivial'.
> Section 5 of the ALv2 covers contributions:
>     5. Submission of Contributions.
>     Unless You explicitly state otherwise, any Contribution intentionally
>     submitted for inclusion in the Work by You to the Licensor shall be
> under
>     the terms and conditions of this License, without any additional terms
> or
>     conditions. [...]
> Technically, Apache doesn't require an ICLA or software grant for
> submissions, no
> matter what the size.  What we need is documentation of the contributor's
> intent to contribute, captured within Apache-archived communication
> channels
> (mailing list, bug tracker, etc.).  If we have that, then the ALv2 section
> 5
> covers us legally.
> The ASF requires an ICLA for all *committers* to cover submissions which
> are
> committed directly into an Apache repo, but that's different.
> Nevertheless, it's considered best practice to obtain additional
> documentation
> from the contributor for large contributions, where "large" is not
> precisely
> defined.  That documentation typically takes the form of a CLA or a
> software
> grant.
> So by establishing a hard requirement for an ICLA for *all* non-trivial
> contributions, Cordova would actually be going further than is required by
> Apache.  That might be a sound policy considering how active Cordova is,
> and
> it's SOP at other places like the Eclipse Foundation.  What we definitely
> would like to avoid is integrating important contributions from somebody
> clueless submitting stuff they don't own or somebody whose identity is not
> known.  Requiring an ICLA up front would guard against that, at the cost of
> raising the barrier to entry.
> HTH,
> Marvin Humphrey

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