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From "Hu, Ningxin" <ningxin...@intel.com>
Subject RE: [Android] Refactoring for different engines
Date Wed, 30 Apr 2014 09:25:50 GMT
Brian, Joe and Ian,

Thanks for your detailed explanations. It makes lots of senses. Let's make it happen.

Thanks,
-ningxin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: brian.leroux@gmail.com [mailto:brian.leroux@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
> Brian LeRoux
> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 4:47 AM
> To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [Android] Refactoring for different engines
> 
> Think those builds should be hosted by those downstreams anyhow. Cordova is
> sort of the low level, on the metal, default webview and building these things is
> a very deliberate choice by the end developer using the platform.
> Moz should host Gecko builds. Chromium should host custom ChromeViews
> (someday, I dream) and, Crosswalk should host their thing. Etc. Maybe someday
> we can get an IE binary from Microsoft. Dare to dream.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Ian Clelland <iclelland@chromium.org>wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Joe Bowser <bowserj@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > So, when Apache publishes something, it has fill the following criteria:
> > >
> > > - All source code must have their licence headers intact
> > > - All third-party source code must be mentioned in the NOTICE file
> > > - No Binary Blobs - No compiled libraries, which include JARs and
> > > shared object files (including the pak).
> > >
> > > Now, with Crosswalk, there's obviously the Chromium Library that we
> > > need, so we need a way to get that into the generated project somehow.
> > >  The easiest way is with plugman, but the issue is that Apache can't
> > > legally pass around binary blobs when it does an official release of
> > > anything.  Intel, OTOH, isn't restricted by cumbersome open source
> > > foundation rules, and can do so.
> > >
> >
> > Intel has their own rules to follow, certainly, but we're presuming
> > here that Intel has already worked out the legal requirements to
> > distribute Crosswalk in the first place, so the idea of Intel also
> > distributing the "official" Crosswalk Cordova Engine plugin just seems
> > to make a lot of sense.
> >
> > Apache distributes Cordova-Android, which defines the integration API,
> > and includes the default AndroidWebView classes, and other parties
> > should be free to distribute their own engine plugins, implementing
> > that API. That distribution can then be in any form that makes sense
> > (and complies with the licenses of the various components)
> >
> > Joe's right that it would be awkward, if not impossible, for Apache to
> > distribute the Crosswalk core library. We'd have to include the 15GB
> > of source as well, at the very least, and that doesn't sound like fun at all.
> > It *is* all open-source, but there are a lot of different licenses in
> > there, and we'd need some lawyerly help to make sure that the ASF
> > could release software that included it all.
> >
> > Ian
> >
> >
> > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 7:43 AM, Hu, Ningxin <ningxin.hu@intel.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >> - who publishes the plugins, intel or cordova?
> > > >
> > > > For this open, could someone elaborate it a little bit more? What
> > > > does
> > > it mean? I remembered someone mentioned the license is open in the
> > > hangouts, any details?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > -ningxin
> > > >
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: mmocny@google.com [mailto:mmocny@google.com] On Behalf Of
> > Michal
> > > >> Mocny
> > > >> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 12:53 AM
> > > >> To: dev
> > > >> Subject: Re: [Android] Refactoring for different engines
> > > >>
> > > >> Notes:
> > > >>
> > > >> - native junit tests needs fixing (due to deprication)
> > > >>
> > > >> - common script for creating walk mobilespec
> > > >>
> > > >> - fix failing mobile spec tests (file-transfer?, media?)
> > > >>
> > > >> - who publishes the plugins, intel or cordova?
> > > >>
> > > >> - static vs dynamic xwalk lib
> > > >>
> > > >>   - (option) one plugin, use hooks to download static library
> > > >>
> > > >>   - (option) one plugin, just bundle static lib
> > > >>
> > > >>   - (option) one plugin, download static lib on app run
> > > >>
> > > >>   - (option) two plugins, xwalk lib bundled in a separate plugin,
> > > >> and
> > > can be added
> > > >> as a <dep>?
> > > >>
> > > >> - intel vs arm binary apk targets for CLI.  Two android
> > > >> platforms, or
> > > just two build
> > > >> targets?
> > > >>
> > > >> - How long to get GeckoView: Joe not sure. days to weeks :(
> > > >>
> > > >>   - Not blocking, though
> > > >>
> > > >> - plugman works to install but CLI does not, lets figure that out
> > > >>
> > > >> - Other platforms: Windows Phone support!?  BB10?!
> > > >>
> > > >> - Can we share code between xwalk WebViewClient and gecko view
> > > >> WebViewClient etc?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Josh Soref
> > > >> <jsoref@blackberry.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Ian Clelland wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > > https://staging.talkgadget.google.com/hangouts/_/7ecpi3uaclcuedn7imn
> > > 6b
> > > >> > 9jdq
> > > >> > >c
> > > >> >
> > > >> > https://talkgadget.google.com/hangouts/_/7ecpi3uaclcuedn7imn6b9
> > > >> > jdqc
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Might work. Staging is probably internal.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > >
> >
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