Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-cordova-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-cordova-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 49F33102D4 for ; Thu, 6 Feb 2014 00:01:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 71520 invoked by uid 500); 6 Feb 2014 00:01:34 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cordova-dev-archive@cordova.apache.org Received: (qmail 71460 invoked by uid 500); 6 Feb 2014 00:01:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cordova.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@cordova.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cordova.apache.org Received: (qmail 71413 invoked by uid 99); 6 Feb 2014 00:01:31 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 06 Feb 2014 00:01:31 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of anis.kadri@gmail.com designates 209.85.192.169 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.192.169] (HELO mail-pd0-f169.google.com) (209.85.192.169) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 06 Feb 2014 00:01:27 +0000 Received: by mail-pd0-f169.google.com with SMTP id v10so993484pde.28 for ; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 16:01:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=VN3MQgIFwHUA6ZKQ/JxY1Cy5Lq9QoU4V19Fs4nLiuiY=; b=eFPyFg1VVaLbkRvH9iV23mNqbds+9BZny9rEx7prAhnY6YAMgqdQZ8aHXXyQtE3s8z 76zdvsbKRfx+DkuJLh1quqi1s2Hp9Grmo6DgiaGQyfwOIQ3qVdknEpMZLx2vbw9N4w60 PQv9+uFeKb+PBz7q4y9t0wxTTWQEVEyXkUNsxBCmY5ytRGGBh05VpEAhelcYYFwTZKz/ dm3KqT6LexAIXOpfX33Vt/uPUnEjGd0+TO0FE7SqDq4ipVznNCl0nXWL5pQqQ3YQKqzF f3vTY8n/9XRcThXIxiMMj/CuQtSAJ5z/CbQuH2E0uWemkazBrNHp9vv6cha6nv4cNZZv U2Mg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.68.98.3 with SMTP id ee3mr6701446pbb.31.1391644867239; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 16:01:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.126.2 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Feb 2014 16:01:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <20140205044514.6668435.37296.11171@blackberry.com> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 16:01:07 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: CB-5974, or, Re-thinking broken-by-default (Was: Re: Plugins Release!) From: Anis KADRI To: "dev@cordova.apache.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b6d9054f726bc04f1b1916b X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --047d7b6d9054f726bc04f1b1916b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It sounds like a good plan indeed. I would encourage our users to migrate to the new locations as soon as they can. 12 months is an acceptable migration window I believe. +1 to Ian's proposal. On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Jesse wrote: > +1 to Ian's proposal > > @purplecabbage > risingj.com > > > On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Andrew Grieve > wrote: > > > Joe - I appreciate your effort and your input, but I don't appreciate > > hostility on this list from anyone, including you. > > This is a public list, and I see nothing wrong with sebb's email in this > > thread. > > If you are at the point that you don't want to receive emails from sebb, > > then I would ask that you choose to ignore them, or to create an email > > filter on your end. > > > > +1 to Ian's proposal. > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Joe Bowser wrote: > > > > > Can you please leave this list sebb? You opinion is unwelcome! > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 6:05 AM, sebb wrote: > > > > On 5 February 2014 13:20, David Kemp wrote: > > > >> -1 to merging reads. That just sounds like a horrible thing to > debug. > > > > > > > > Seems to me that developers using the plugin will have to implement > > > > something similar in order to make it easier for their users. > > > > > > > > Would it not be better to spend the time getting it right once, for > > > > the benfit of all developers, rather than hoping they each get it > > > > right? > > > > > > > > I don't know what is involved here, so this is theoretical. > > > > But I believe that compatibility should only be broken if necessary. > > > > Also that fixing a problem at source is usually a lot cheaper than > > > > requiring downstream developers/users to do so. > > > > There are lots more of them, so any extra effort they have to expend > > > > is multiplied many times. > > > > In other words, the cost-benefit should not just look at the > immediate > > > > cost to the project. > > > > > > > >> +1 to 'go big or go home'. Break it now. Break it obviously. > > > > > > > > But I agree that breakage - if decided on - should be obvious. > > > > > > > >> > > > >> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 11:45 PM, Josh Soref > > > wrote: > > > >> > > > >>> Is it impossible to have reads merged from both locations, but > writes > > > go > > > >>> to the new location, and when a write completes in the new > location, > > > delete > > > >>> the old one? > > > > > > --047d7b6d9054f726bc04f1b1916b--