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Subject: Re: [Android] Deprecation of Geolocation on Android
From: Mike Billau <mike.billau@gmail.com>
To: "dev@cordova.apache.org" <dev@cordova.apache.org>, bowserj@apache.org
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+1 to deprecate. Tested Web GPS on 2.3 (lowest that we have) and it worked
fine.


On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Joe Bowser <bowserj@gmail.com> wrote:

> So, an update on this.
>
> 1. Our users don't know how GPS works! I can reproduce Geolocation
> errors only by disconnecting my WiFi and by not having a SIM in the
> phone and expecting my GPS to magically get the signal from inside my
> office (It takes 2 minutes at least).  I can't change the laws of
> physics, so this is working as intended
> 2. Our GPS doesn't work any better or worse than Web GPS
> 3. We'll still have people filing bugs against the Geolocation plugin
> that I can't reproduce, I'd rather close them as Web GPS problems than
> "You've never used GPS before, I can't reproduce" problems.
>
> I think we should deprecate the code for the time being, since there
> isn't actually anything wrong with it other than the fact that it has
> a 60s callback (which was considered reasonable in the old days of
> 2008 when batteries died more quickly).
>
> On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Lindsey Simon <lsimon@commoner.com>
> wrote:
> > +1 to nuking it.
> >
> > Anyone depending on it for really old versions of Android is likely not
> > doing anyone a favor (themselves or their users) - and (I think) it adds
> to
> > new developer confusion. Then again, having a plugin that only adds the
> > permission bit sort of does that too.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Michal Mocny <mmocny@chromium.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Adding support for play services based geolocation could come as a value
> >> add later.  If the current implementation is broken and no one wants to
> >> work on it (seems to be the case since it hasn't been fixed yet), then
> >> Joe's suggestion to just drop it now and leave a no-op plugin that adds
> >> permission only sounds like the right thing short term.
> >>
> >> Joes first email claims Web Geolocation supports all current versions of
> >> android (http://caniuse.com/geolocation claims android 2.1+ though I
> >> didn't
> >> look in to possible quirks).
> >>
> >> -Michal
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 8:43 PM, Andrew Grieve <agrieve@chromium.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Is the plugin still needed on older android versions? e.g. we might
> >> > want to have it be a no-op based on the android version instead of
> >> > deleting it?
> >> >
> >> > Android geolocation seems to have gone Play Services, so another
> >> > option would be to make the plugin use that instead of the OS
> >> > geolocation in order to provide some utility.
> >> >
> >> > On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Jesse <purplecabbage@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> > > The index.html issue was iOS, not sure if it still exists.
> >> > >
> >> > > Windows Phone 7+8 use the browser based geolocation as they have
> >> > > implemented the spec,  However because of the way permissions are
> >> > managed,
> >> > > there is a native do-nothing stub that simply signal that Location
> >> > Services
> >> > > are required.
> >> > > Windows8 does some massaging of the api to the WinJS version, and
> adds
> >> > the
> >> > > permissions to the project.
> >> > >
> >> > > I just spoke ( physically ) with Joe, and with this change, the
> >> > geolocation
> >> > > plugin would still exist for Android, it would just add the
> permission
> >> > > to
> >> > > the app.  So, Android's plugin would be almost identical to WP7+8
> with
> >> > this
> >> > > change.
> >> > >
> >> > > +1 from me, assuming everything will just work.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > @purplecabbage
> >> > > risingj.com
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Joe Bowser <bowserj@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> It never did on Android, you can see this in Mobile-Spec.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io> wrote:
> >> > >> > Does the permission dialogue still ask for index.html ?
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > On Friday, January 10, 2014, Joe Bowser wrote:
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> Due to numerous issues found in Geolocation, combined with an
> >> > increase
> >> > >> >> in reliability of the Web Geolocation, I'm wanting to see us EOL
> >> > >> >> the
> >> > >> >> Geolocation plugin.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> Reasons for this include:
> >> > >> >>  * Support for Geolocation on all currently supported versions
> of
> >> > >> Android
> >> > >> >>  * Numerous issues with the current Geolocation plugin that may
> >> > >> >> involve a full re-write of the Geolocation plugins.
> >> > >> >>  * The Web Geolocation may be more energy efficient than our own
> >> > >> >> Geolocation polling.
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> What do people think about deprecating this plugin and
> >> > >> >> recommending
> >> > >> >> that we use the browser's implementation on Android?
> >> > >> >>
> >> > >> >> Joe
> >> > >>
> >> >
> >
> >
>

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