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From Brian LeRoux...@brian.io>
Subject Re: IDE tweaks for CLI
Date Mon, 06 Jan 2014 19:26:33 GMT
I'm sorry, what problems do you really have with the CLI for
building/deploying? I have none nor see any issues that require slippers. ;)

When I train people about Cordova based dev I always teach them the CLI and
to use a text editor. Most are using Sublime (not Xcode) and many are
rolling into a Grunt workflow (not Ant!).

I suspect the majority of people using IDE's are actually our committers
and not the web community user base.


On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Braden Shepherdson <braden@chromium.org>wrote:

> The unfortunate part is that Eclipse and Xcode are also (more or less) the
> build systems for iOS and Android. You can build from CLI, and even deploy
> from the CLI if the stars align and you have your ruby slippers on the
> correct feet, but in practice most people are launching from IDEs. That
> makes it tempting to use them to edit the files in the project, when in
> fact one shouldn't be editing any of those files by hand, native or web.
>
> I'm glad to see some progress being made; this is easily the biggest user
> training problem faced by the CLI workflow.
>
> Braden
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 10:32 PM, Tommy Williams <tommy@devgeeks.org>
> wrote:
>
> > I'm with you, Brian... CLI for CLI, project scripts for IDEs. Anything
> else
> > will just lead to madness..
> > On 03/01/2014 12:21 pm, "Brian LeRoux" <b@brian.io> wrote:
> >
> > > idk, if ppl want to use the cli I would reccomend using a text editor
> and
> > > our build chain
> > >
> > > if they want to use IDE's then they should not use the cli and just use
> > the
> > > project scripts
> > >
> > > (at least, this was the intent of the design as I originally saw it)
> > >
> > > not sure I see much benefit to making the cli ultra configurable
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Andrew Grieve <agrieve@chromium.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > We've had a bunch of users confused by Xcode and Eclipse showing only
> > the
> > > > output www/ and not the www/ that they are supposed to edit.
> > > >
> > > > There's bugs tracking addressing this for:
> > > > iOS: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-5397
> > > > Android: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-5715
> > > >
> > > > I've now taken a stab at addressing both of them through adding in
> > > > references to the root www/, merges/ and config.xml for CLI projects
> > > (using
> > > > a separate project template for normal vs CLI projects).
> > > >
> > > > For Xcode, the build still works fine if you delete the reference to
> > the
> > > > output www/, but I've left it in by default.
> > > > For Eclipse, there's no such option.
> > > >
> > > > If anyone wants to give it a whirl & provide feedback, that'd be
> great!
> > > >
> > > > Andrew
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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