Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-cordova-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-cordova-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 58792105F1 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 23:16:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 25572 invoked by uid 500); 17 Oct 2013 23:16:45 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cordova-dev-archive@cordova.apache.org Received: (qmail 25529 invoked by uid 500); 17 Oct 2013 23:16:45 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cordova.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@cordova.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cordova.apache.org Received: (qmail 25420 invoked by uid 99); 17 Oct 2013 23:16:45 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 23:16:45 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of agrieve@google.com designates 209.85.160.50 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.160.50] (HELO mail-pb0-f50.google.com) (209.85.160.50) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 23:16:37 +0000 Received: by mail-pb0-f50.google.com with SMTP id uo15so1578277pbc.9 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 16:16:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=ZZmXDKXITOMGJujGrxpBGwG62QPXZ4aSTaPHKdMlnEY=; b=P+7H++RmHhaYSqjuIVfVMReLdz5G043swQkZYd9NBcO1TwCp96KdetEEN7tbtIKMTT XEYHLilJQ8OTolUCe0a3zDV44U/orj4kMxds6laH0RoeOB5Pmxp29IYg8/31ePNDBvuo 2bmChqsDUKtRX+Kmlx+JS2EG7qYd8CesXY4r6e9KGzIN2LDzAZVkGWLJLSlEogtYvBEO PjWvQatI+kWY9UaAQiVpvM11NfWwekra/TdTKppLFtsvS3PncgL5TBr0jaRxUn51fk9F KyOrVQy3Mc9yPVppLgIRTcJjf2c3AV+7jRPd+zcwFfdTi0uxpr/p+L5FPONyjrkmwWJf A0ow== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=chromium.org; s=google; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=ZZmXDKXITOMGJujGrxpBGwG62QPXZ4aSTaPHKdMlnEY=; b=COdgfJX9qNZP/A8E4KKpBPtF9atCqa9lIczscW8aveEFK4fA9cCUPF68BhjC8+56Ul Y/N1k89zQ3/T4W652V42u5qCATlhlUn15EzORX03tt/919HhYoJJQHmgECmsgeDIoMeS wuf81wdXsjIsIW80N6Onf8UisjxrqbXgkzVqU= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=ZZmXDKXITOMGJujGrxpBGwG62QPXZ4aSTaPHKdMlnEY=; b=ZOP8E38cWIXJMxkwcLTJPeAUDfWLWl7T1cCJbd4omunCk4UWyjBi++0pMR/uXoFBJp XPRDGieJuIX8itYw31B1vhTdqw5S1H/ra1qYRHUmJniLiVrtkKzOgInIqzqdDxkGvZIh ys/5XuKjOK9HQj9aN3SrUjWHgb+25csKvLlaXBgsxOzNPaGC2YgOhQ8+5JBm4TiIuFw5 K2W/HEDVlOy+hEcm74glAl6u8QXja5Cj/uNpMloAwZok/4N1Uw2VQkAdOvWVu+pe5SCA 1+2CjyZfOHsBthHknFA6ELUGFJG/32X8lj76MUY0UW9Dpk1GiiH8h9mx8xzInRDRlpfM IWiQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmXRGeiYpLNM0prOhf0bVwTGT5/fZrXolmFerJS1QDbbFJJV6oSLn9LMOsdTaf5KP3vPCw/A6G7tYmcIrteuEVahg50MORwH/7qPeOxb9V8+WyLG6SwzUwqdOQoI1q3CuIwneRmfA2SynsVYN4I3mr4sFRpuFoxBtQZxO4891yPClczzrI/9VZREcsgT++kXoedajbmH3y7DEJ9H6Zo1ljPT0XMfw== X-Received: by 10.68.192.195 with SMTP id hi3mr39965pbc.18.1382051776101; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 16:16:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: agrieve@google.com Received: by 10.68.17.98 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 16:15:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <95818EB9-CE1F-451A-8CC2-09EC8A764CFF@gmail.com> <38E977FD-610B-44B6-9E3F-43D7EC960FF3@redhat.com> <52600aca.42a4420a.14b5.1920@mx.google.com> From: Andrew Grieve Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 19:15:56 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0muTIenC7cHsabHMxMGIPAaa_TA Message-ID: Subject: Re: Post 3.1 release committer & community meeting To: Michal Mocny Cc: dev , Andrew Grieve , "bowserj@apache.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7ba970e62d1bd304e8f8014e X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --047d7ba970e62d1bd304e8f8014e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 7:05 PM, Michal Mocny wrote: > My Short notes from meeting, longer emails to follow about some of these > topics: > > ================================ > > CI/Medic brief description > > > Summarize Mike's CordovaTests prototype > > -- Looks good, but do we support plugin.xml ? > > -- Jesse's alternative: test/ folder to have a plugin.xml that > on top level, installed optionally > > > Plugin download counts, yay! > > -- How to filter out contributor download counts? Repeat download counts? > > -- What about system cookies curl-style, or some other system > fingerprinting to plugman? > > > 2.9.x (and 3.2?) > > -- 2.9.1 and 2.9.2 etc will be released on cadence schedule > > -- Steven is starting the 3.2 release next week > I think 2.9.1 is next week. And 3.2 whenever we get that done. > -- We continue to release monthly for now, even if very little work on > platforms. Try to make the flow fast enough to not be a pain > > > Plugin dependancies versions > > -- How to know which plugin versions tested? (Braden's "info" command) > > -- how to make non backwards compatible changes? > > -- can't depend on specific version because we cannot install more than > one plugin-version > > -- perhaps always use "latest" supported, but then plugins can't update > MAJOR outside of CadVer updates? > > > Splitting cordova-cli into cordova-lib > > -- SemVer and CadVer for downstream > > -- mobile-chrome-apps would like this, and Jeffrey Heifetz says BB is > interested (phonegap-cli likely too) > > -- Andrew to email about exactly what he means > > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Andrew Grieve wrote: > >> And here's the viewing link! >> >> http://youtu.be/X3bUWVHeJJ0 >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Andrew Grieve >> wrote: >> >> > Also, if you're having trouble connecting, I'll be on IRC. >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Andrew Grieve > >wrote: >> > >> >> Okay, for those who want to be able to talk: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/a8df1213897c69821d177842af7d2bfbf948ef2b >> >> >> >> I'll post the viewing link closer to 5:30 >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Joe Bowser wrote: >> >> >> >>> I meant that we'll be using my laptop here in Vancouver at the Regus >> >>> space. Who is hosting the hangout? >> >>> >> >>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Joe Bowser >> wrote: >> >>> > So, can I get an invite to the hangout? I'll be hosting it from the >> >>> > Regus space in Vancouver. >> >>> > >> >>> > On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Michal Mocny >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> EST. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 12:05 PM, purplecabbage < >> >>> purplecabbage@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> >> >> >>> >>> What time zone is this 5:30 PM occurring in? It was implied >> earlier >> >>> that >> >>> >>> this was EST, but not absolutely stated. >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> > On Oct 17, 2013, at 7:39 AM, Michal Mocny >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> > I don't know that the invite list was super useful last time. >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> > We will post the URL to the public stream here at 5:30 and post >> >>> >>> > instructions on how to join the stream for those who want to >> >>> speak. Once >> >>> >>> > again we will be limited to 10, so please use the viewing-only >> >>> option if >> >>> >>> > you can. >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> > -Michal >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> > On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Lucas Holmquist < >> >>> lholmqui@redhat.com >> >>> >>> >wrote: >> >>> >>> > >> >>> >>> >> Nope, just wondering if there was a sign up sheet like last >> >>> time, i >> >>> >>> >> didn't see one other than the doodle about the times >> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 17, 2013, at 10:31 AM, Michal Mocny < >> mmocny@chromium.org> >> >>> >>> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >>> Yes, is that a concern? >> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Lucas Holmquist < >> >>> lholmqui@redhat.com >> >>> >>> >>> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >>>> will this also be a hangout like last time >> >>> >>> >>>>> On Oct 17, 2013, at 10:13 AM, Michal Mocny < >> >>> mmocny@chromium.org> >> >>> >>> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>> Reminder, this is today. >> >>> >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 2:11 PM, James Jong < >> >>> wjamesjong@gmail.com> >> >>> >>> >>>>> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>> - Latest updates / strategic direction on medic & CI >> >>> >>> >>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>> -James Jong >> >>> >>> >>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>> On Oct 15, 2013, at 11:30 AM, Andrew Grieve < >> >>> agrieve@chromium.org> >> >>> >>> >>>> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> This is coming up this Thursday! What do people want to >> talk >> >>> about? >> >>> >>> >>>>>> Here's >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> a couple to get us going: >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> - Plugin registry download counts (Are these available >> yet) >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> - Idea: Split cordova-cli-lib from cordova-cli on NPM >> (have >> >>> >>> >> cordova-cli >> >>> >>> >>>>>> and >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> phonegap-cli depend on cordova-cli-lib) >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> - Michal's work on CDVTest >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Michal Mocny < >> >>> mmocny@google.com> >> >>> >>> >>>> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> Alright, Looks like Thu 17 is the clear winner, with not >> a >> >>> single >> >>> >>> >>>> person >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> having any complaints about that time. >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> Brian cannot make it until 6pm EST, but I'm going to >> >>> schedule >> >>> >>> start >> >>> >>> >>>> time >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> for 5:30 for the inevitable hiccups and introductions and >> >>> any >> >>> >>> agenda >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> overview etc. It will very likely be 6pm before we get >> >>> into the >> >>> >>> >> thick >> >>> >>> >>>>>> of >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> things. >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> We will send out exact details on this thread the day of, >> >>> See you >> >>> >>> >> all >> >>> >>> >>>>>> then. >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> -Michal >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Michal Mocny < >> >>> mmocny@google.com> >> >>> >>> >>>> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> Okay, options are updated for the poll ( >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> http://doodle.com/2pmy2ptafmxsrna2 >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> ) >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> For those who filled it out, sorry, you will need to do >> it >> >>> again. >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 7:27 PM, Michal Mocny < >> >>> mmocny@google.com> >> >>> >>> >>>>>> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> Ugh Sorry that was a misreading of course. I'll set up >> a >> >>> new >> >>> >>> >> doodle >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> tomorrow morning. >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> On 2013-10-06 1:52 AM, "Tommy Williams" < >> >>> tommy@devgeeks.org> >> >>> >>> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> +1 for post 16th for Joe availability. >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> Also, thanks for thinking of Australia... One benefit >> of >> >>> the >> >>> >>> time >> >>> >>> >>>> of >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> year, >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> the nasty time difference just got an hour better >> >>> today... >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> - tommy >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 5 Oct 2013 08:33, "Jesse" < >> purplecabbage@gmail.com> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I filled it out, however, Joe is not available until >> >>> after the >> >>> >>> >>>> 15th. >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> Maybe >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> we should aim for the 16-18th as a window. >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> @purplecabbage >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> risingj.com >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Michal Mocny < >> >>> >>> >> mmocny@chromium.org >> >>> >>> >>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.doodle.com/2pmy2ptafmxsrna2 >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I put a lot of options for time (sorry) since I >> wasn't >> >>> sure >> >>> >>> if >> >>> >>> >> we >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> should >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> be >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> europe or australia friendly this time. >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> There are also three options this time: yes, (yes), >> >>> no, where >> >>> >>> >> the >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> middle >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> option is supposed to be a "prefer not, but if need >> >>> be, fine" >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -Michal >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Michal Mocny < >> >>> >>> >>>> mmocny@chromium.org> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11-15 sounds like the range to shoot for. I'll set >> >>> up a >> >>> >>> >>>> doodle.. >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Joe Bowser < >> >>> >>> bowserj@gmail.com >> >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm unavailable until after the 15th. I'll be at >> Big >> >>> >>> Android >> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> BBQ. >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > > --047d7ba970e62d1bd304e8f8014e--