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From Michal Mocny <mmo...@chromium.org>
Subject Re: Post 3.1 release committer & community meeting
Date Thu, 17 Oct 2013 23:05:16 GMT
My Short notes from meeting, longer emails to follow about some of these
topics:

================================

CI/Medic brief description


Summarize Mike's CordovaTests prototype

-- Looks good, but do we support plugin.xml <mode>?

-- Jesse's alternative: test/ folder to have a plugin.xml that <depends> on
top level, installed optionally


Plugin download counts, yay!

-- How to filter out contributor download counts?  Repeat download counts?

-- What about system cookies curl-style, or some other system
fingerprinting to plugman?


2.9.x (and 3.2?)

-- 2.9.1 and 2.9.2 etc will be released on cadence schedule

-- Steven is starting the 3.2 release next week

-- We continue to release monthly for now, even if very little work on
platforms.  Try to make the flow fast enough to not be a pain


Plugin dependancies versions

-- How to know which plugin versions tested?  (Braden's "info" command)

-- how to make non backwards compatible changes?

-- can't depend on specific version because we cannot install more than one
plugin-version

-- perhaps always use "latest" supported, but then plugins can't update
MAJOR outside of CadVer updates?


Splitting cordova-cli into cordova-lib

-- SemVer and CadVer for downstream

-- mobile-chrome-apps would like this, and Jeffrey Heifetz says BB is
interested (phonegap-cli likely too)

-- Andrew to email about exactly what he means


On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Andrew Grieve <agrieve@chromium.org> wrote:

> And here's the viewing link!
>
> http://youtu.be/X3bUWVHeJJ0
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Andrew Grieve <agrieve@chromium.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Also, if you're having trouble connecting, I'll be on IRC.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Andrew Grieve <agrieve@chromium.org
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Okay, for those who want to be able to talk:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/a8df1213897c69821d177842af7d2bfbf948ef2b
> >>
> >> I'll post the viewing link closer to 5:30
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Joe Bowser <bowserj@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I meant that we'll be using my laptop here in Vancouver at the Regus
> >>> space.  Who is hosting the hangout?
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Joe Bowser <bowserj@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > So, can I get an invite to the hangout? I'll be hosting it from the
> >>> > Regus space in Vancouver.
> >>> >
> >>> > On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 9:18 AM, Michal Mocny <mmocny@chromium.org>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> >> EST.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 12:05 PM, purplecabbage <
> >>> purplecabbage@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >>> What time zone is this 5:30 PM occurring in? It was implied
earlier
> >>> that
> >>> >>> this was EST, but not absolutely stated.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> > On Oct 17, 2013, at 7:39 AM, Michal Mocny <mmocny@chromium.org>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > I don't know that the invite list was super useful last
time.
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > We will post the URL to the public stream here at 5:30
and post
> >>> >>> > instructions on how to join the stream for those who want
to
> >>> speak.  Once
> >>> >>> > again we will be limited to 10, so please use the viewing-only
> >>> option if
> >>> >>> > you can.
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > -Michal
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Lucas Holmquist <
> >>> lholmqui@redhat.com
> >>> >>> >wrote:
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> >> Nope,  just wondering if there was a sign up sheet
like last
> >>> time,  i
> >>> >>> >> didn't see one other than the doodle about the times
> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 17, 2013, at 10:31 AM, Michal Mocny <
> mmocny@chromium.org>
> >>> >>> wrote:
> >>> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> >>> Yes, is that a concern?
> >>> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Lucas Holmquist
<
> >>> lholmqui@redhat.com
> >>> >>> >>> wrote:
> >>> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> >>>> will this also be a hangout like last time
> >>> >>> >>>>> On Oct 17, 2013, at 10:13 AM, Michal Mocny
<
> >>> mmocny@chromium.org>
> >>> >>> wrote:
> >>> >>> >>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>> Reminder, this is today.
> >>> >>> >>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 2:11 PM, James
Jong <
> >>> wjamesjong@gmail.com>
> >>> >>> >>>>> wrote:
> >>> >>> >>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>> - Latest updates / strategic direction
on medic & CI
> >>> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>> -James Jong
> >>> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>> On Oct 15, 2013, at 11:30 AM, Andrew
Grieve <
> >>> agrieve@chromium.org>
> >>> >>> >>>> wrote:
> >>> >>> >>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>> This is coming up this Thursday!
What do people want to
> talk
> >>> about?
> >>> >>> >>>>>> Here's
> >>> >>> >>>>>>> a couple to get us going:
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>> - Plugin registry download counts
(Are these available yet)
> >>> >>> >>>>>>> - Idea: Split cordova-cli-lib
from cordova-cli on NPM (have
> >>> >>> >> cordova-cli
> >>> >>> >>>>>> and
> >>> >>> >>>>>>> phonegap-cli depend on cordova-cli-lib)
> >>> >>> >>>>>>> - Michal's work on CDVTest
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 4:16 PM,
Michal Mocny <
> >>> mmocny@google.com>
> >>> >>> >>>> wrote:
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> Alright, Looks like Thu 17
is the clear winner, with not a
> >>> single
> >>> >>> >>>> person
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> having any complaints about
that time.
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> Brian cannot make it until
6pm EST, but I'm going to
> >>> schedule
> >>> >>> start
> >>> >>> >>>> time
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> for 5:30 for the inevitable
hiccups and introductions and
> >>> any
> >>> >>> agenda
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> overview etc.  It will very
likely be 6pm before we get
> >>> into the
> >>> >>> >> thick
> >>> >>> >>>>>> of
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> things.
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> We will send out exact details
on this thread the day of,
> >>> See you
> >>> >>> >> all
> >>> >>> >>>>>> then.
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> -Michal
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 1:05
PM, Michal Mocny <
> >>> mmocny@google.com>
> >>> >>> >>>> wrote:
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> Okay, options are updated
for the poll (
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> http://doodle.com/2pmy2ptafmxsrna2
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> )
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> For those who filled it
out, sorry, you will need to do
> it
> >>> again.
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at
7:27 PM, Michal Mocny <
> >>> mmocny@google.com>
> >>> >>> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> Ugh Sorry that was
a misreading of course. I'll set up a
> >>> new
> >>> >>> >> doodle
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> tomorrow morning.
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>> On 2013-10-06 1:52
AM, "Tommy Williams" <
> >>> tommy@devgeeks.org>
> >>> >>> >> wrote:
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> +1 for post 16th
for Joe availability.
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> Also, thanks for
thinking of Australia... One benefit
> of
> >>> the
> >>> >>> time
> >>> >>> >>>> of
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> year,
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> the nasty time
difference just got an hour better
> >>> today...
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> - tommy
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 5 Oct 2013
08:33, "Jesse" <purplecabbage@gmail.com
> >
> >>> wrote:
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I filled it
out, however, Joe is not available until
> >>> after the
> >>> >>> >>>> 15th.
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> Maybe
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> we should
aim for the 16-18th as a window.
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> @purplecabbage
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> risingj.com
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct
4, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Michal Mocny <
> >>> >>> >> mmocny@chromium.org
> >>> >>> >>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.doodle.com/2pmy2ptafmxsrna2
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I put
a lot of options for time (sorry) since I
> wasn't
> >>> sure
> >>> >>> if
> >>> >>> >> we
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> should
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> be
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> europe
or australia friendly this time.
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> There
are also three options this time: yes, (yes),
> >>> no, where
> >>> >>> >> the
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> middle
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> option
is supposed to be a "prefer not, but if need
> >>> be, fine"
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -Michal
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri,
Oct 4, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Michal Mocny <
> >>> >>> >>>> mmocny@chromium.org>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11-15
sounds like the range to shoot for.  I'll set
> >>> up a
> >>> >>> >>>> doodle..
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On
Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Joe Bowser <
> >>> >>> bowserj@gmail.com
> >>> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I'm unavailable until after the 15th. I'll be at
> Big
> >>> >>> Android
> >>> >>> >>>>>>>> BBQ.
> >>> >>> >>
> >>> >>> >>
> >>> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
>

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