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From Shazron <shaz...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Tag 2.9.1
Date Thu, 17 Oct 2013 18:42:33 GMT
Thanks Dan,
All feedback appreciated! It's one way to contribute, among others. I
kicked off a Wiki page under "How to Contribute" -- called 2.9.x support,
right now it's empty -- I'll populate it with what we discussed.

https://wiki.apache.org/cordova/2.9.x%20Support


On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Dan Moore <moore234@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I know this is a dev list, so please let me know if I'm out of line
> posting (since I am a user and not a dev), but I couldn't restrain myself
> from chiming in on this issue.
>
> First, thanks for supporting 2.9.x for a while.  As a user developing on
> top of Cordova, chasing Cordova versions can be tough.  I really felt good
> about committing to 2.9, especially since 3.x was such a big (good, but
> big) change.
>
> As a user, I would advocate for:
> * having a clear end of life date for 2.9.x (3.5 or 6 months or whichever
> comes first).  The blog is a fine place to put this, but I'd also add it to
> the 2.9 docs, announce it on the phonegap google group, etc.
> * porting as much as possible back (including iOS 7 support)
> * documenting what you can't or won't backport in the blog and in the
> 2.9.x docs, so users can make an informed choice.
>
> From this thread, seems like you aren't interested in porting new device
> support back to 2.9.x.  That is a bummer.  Is that because of the effort?
>
> When I read that 2.9.x was going to be supported for a 'long time':
> http://www.infil00p.org/introducing-cordova-2-8-1-on-android/  I wasn't
> sure what that meant, but I hoped it meant support for major new versions
> of devices (especially on the two marquee platforms).
>
> As far as no one moving to 3.x, I would say that when you specify the end
> of life of 2.9.x, that will be a clear signal it is time to move.
>
> Anyway, I'm sure I can live with whatever is decided, but please do
> communicate this as clearly and loudly as you can to us users.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> --
> Dan Moore
> Developing with Cordova CLI
> https://leanpub.com/developingwithcordovacli
>
>
> ________________________________
>  From: Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io>
> To: "dev@cordova.apache.org" <dev@cordova.apache.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 9:02 AM
> Subject: Re: Tag 2.9.1
>
>
> yes and yes!
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 9:49 AM, Marcel Kinard <cmarcelk@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > So my intepretation of these comments is:
> > - backport fixes to 2.9 for serious platform breakages and "easy" plugin
> > changes, not new features (new device OS capability such as iOS 7 is
> > considered a new feature)
> > - stop backporting anything to 2.9 when 3.5 comes out
> >
> > If so, should this be spelled out somwhere, such as
> > cordova.apache.org/blog?
> >
> > On Oct 15, 2013, at 8:24 PM, Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io> wrote:
> >
> > > 3.5
> > >
> > > (Or six months.)
> > >
> > > But ya, what Jesse said.
> > >
> > > On Tuesday, October 15, 2013, Jesse wrote:
> > >
> > >> I would not add iOS7 support.
> > >> I would consider adding any plugin changes if it is not too difficult
> > to do
> > >> so.
> > >>
> > >> @purplecabbage
> > >> risingj.com
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Shazron <shazron@gmail.com
> <javascript:;>>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Nothing is "completely" broken in iOS 7, although with iOS 7 issues
> > that
> > >> is
> > >>> debatable. If we keep patching 2.9.x no one will move on to 3.x...
> (at
> > >>> least for iOS). There has to be an ending...
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Jesse <purplecabbage@gmail.com
> > <javascript:;>>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Decide what is completely broken in your platform, that is
> reasonable
> > >> to
> > >>>> fix, and fix it.
> > >>>> No promises ... just fix what we can, and document that it is
> fixed. I
> > >>>> think...
> > >>>>
> > >>>> @purplecabbage
> > >>>> risingj.com
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Shazron <shazron@gmail.com
> > <javascript:;>>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> One question about this that was not answered. When does
> back-porting
> > >>>> end?
> > >>>>> I'm not sure what we promised for 2.9.x support going forward...
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Jesse <purplecabbage@gmail.com
> > <javascript:;>
> > >>>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Okay, I am actively working on back-porting plugin fixes
into
> 2.9.1
> > >>> for
> > >>>>>> WP7, WP8, and Windows8
> > >>>>>> What is the status of Android, BB, iOS, ... ?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> @purplecabbage
> > >>>>>> risingj.com
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Jesse MacFadyen <
> > >>>>> purplecabbage@gmail.com <javascript:;>
> > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Yes, now that 3.1.0 is out the door, we can do this.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Oct 7, 2013, at 10:36 AM, Joe Bowser <bowserj@gmail.com
> > <javascript:;>
> > >>>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I think we need to just have everyone go through
their work
> > >> over
> > >>>> the
> > >>>>>>>> past month and see if they missed backports.  I
didn't actually
> > >>>> have
> > >>>>>>>> very much missed, and I just backported the File
plugin in the
> > >>>> 2.9.1
> > >>>>>>>> branch.  Of course, with backporting, we need more
people to
> > >> look
> > >>>> at
> > >>>>>>>> what was in 3.1.0 and the plugins and check to
make sure we
> > >>>> backport
> > >>>>>>>> everything, since this is really tricky and spans
all the
> > >> plugin
> > >>>>>>>> repos. :(
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Marcel Kinard
<
> > >>>> cmarcelk@gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>> This thread seems to have gone quiet without
a consensus.
> > >> Should
> > >>>>> there
> > >>>>>>> be additional 2.9.x releases going forward?
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> If so, how often? What kind of fixes should
be backported?
> > >>> Include
> > >>>>>>> updated docs?
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> On Oct 1, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Jesse <purplecabbage@gmail.com
> > <javascript:;>
> > >>>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> As soon as we are done with 3.1.0 it would
be a good time to
> > >> go
> > >>>>> back
> > >>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>>> back-fill for a 2,9,1 release.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Who's with me?
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> >
> >
>

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