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I've emailed github about that in the past.  Hopefully they can address it,
since their review system is far superior for all other reasons.


On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Andrew Grieve <agrieve@chromium.org> wrote=
:

> We do get emails for some pull requests, but some repos aren't set up to
> email and looks like CLI is one of them. Think you need to file an INFRA
> ticket to fix it :(.
>
> I'm liking reviewboard more than github for reviews since it lets you
> review your comments without sending an email for each and every one of
> them. I'm fine with using github as well though since that's what most
> people tend to use.
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Michal Mocny <mmocny@chromium.org> wrote=
:
>
> > We don't get email notified (or, at least I don't) of github pull
> requests,
> > but we do get emails for review-board (or at least the assignee does?).
> >  Either way, if you post a link you'll likely get better luck with a
> review
> > quicker next time, sorry that we missed it.  I can't peek until
> > tomorrow/wed, so if no one gets to it, I'll do it then.
> >
> > -Michal
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Jeffrey Heifetz
> > <jheifetz@blackberry.com>wrote:
> >
> > > So I believe this pull request is ready to go, however I have yet to
> get
> > > any feedback on the request itself. Can anyone familiar with the othe=
r
> > > platforms volunteer to test this with them?
> > >
> > > Is this a question of presentation, should I close the github pull
> > request
> > > in favour of the cordova review board ?
> > >
> > > On 13-09-12 2:13 PM, "Michal Mocny" <mmocny@chromium.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Thats awesome, looking forward to it!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Jeffrey Heifetz
> > > ><jheifetz@blackberry.com>wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Yup I'm on the same page with you Michal, and I believe Braden as
> > well.
> > > >> I'm sorry I should have said so earlier, we resolved this on irc. =
I
> > > >>have a
> > > >> basic implementation here
> > https://github.com/apache/cordova-cli/pull/39
> > > >> but I'm still testing it.
> > > >>
> > > >> On 13-09-12 12:36 PM, "Michal Mocny" <mmocny@chromium.org> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >Trying to clarify the misunderstanding...
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Jeffrey, if I understand your email, your understanding of point
> (4)
> > of
> > > >> >bradens flow is that the app.xml is *being* munged, whereas we
> meant
> > > >>that
> > > >> >its the app.xml config that is *doing* the munging to the platfor=
m
> > > >>config.
> > > >> > I think that means we both agree that app.xml should never be
> > > >>modified,
> > > >> >and it was just a miscommunication.  Am I right with that
> > > >>understanding?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Also, in your proposal you have plugins munging/preparing *after*
> > > >>app.xml
> > > >> >does its munging. I assume you did not do intentionally, that you
> had
> > > >>just
> > > >> >not considered the order important.  If it was intentional, why?
>  We
> > > >>were
> > > >> >thinking app.xml should be last and thus have the most
> "importance".
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Braden Shepherdson
> > > >> ><braden@chromium.org>wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> I think we've gotten a bit confused. Let me try to describe aga=
in
> > the
> > > >> >>way I
> > > >> >> was envisioning things.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> 1. If defaults.xml exists, replace platform config.xml with it.
> > > >> >> 2. Use plugman to add each plugin's <config-file> changes onto
> the
> > > >> >>platform
> > > >> >> config.xml.
> > > >> >> 3. Add in the values from the app config.xml: <name>, <author>
> > etc.,
> > > >> >>which
> > > >> >> it currently does, plus the proposed new <config-file> tags.
> > > >> >> 4. Somewhere in there, call plugman prepare to update the JS
> > modules.
> > > >> >>This
> > > >> >> doesn't change or depend on config.xml at all.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> NB: I don't suggest anywhere that we edit the user's top-level,
> app
> > > >> >> config.xml. This is just a process for building the platform
> > > >>config.xml,
> > > >> >> and making it a pure build artifact.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> I also suggest that the "last word"; the file whose changes are
> > added
> > > >> >>last,
> > > >> >> is the app config.xml. This allows the user the power to overri=
de
> > any
> > > >> >> default or setting from a plugin.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Braden
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Jeffrey Heifetz
> > > >> >><jheifetz@blackberry.com
> > > >> >> >wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> > I'd like to clarify the changes to prepare before I continue
> the
> > > >> >> > implementation.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > The current prepare flow works like this
> > > >> >> >         1. Call parser.update_project. This includes calling
> > > >> >> > parser.update_from_config which updates the platform config a=
nd
> > > >> >>resources
> > > >> >> > based on app config (but only handles specific tags). It also
> > > >>updates
> > > >> >>the
> > > >> >> > platform www based on app www, staging and overrides.
> > > >> >> >         2. Call plugman prepare (sets up JS-modules)
> > > >> >> >         3. Plugin config-munge (where each plugin config
> changes
> > > >>are
> > > >> >> > iterated
> > > >> >> > through)
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Braden's proposed flow (in his own words)
> > > >> >> >         1. Delete the old platform config.xml.
> > > >> >> >         2. Copy the defaults.xml to config.xml.
> > > >> >> >         3. Re-run the Plugman config munging for every plugin=
,
> > > >> >>modifying
> > > >> >> > the
> > > >> >> >            fresh platform config.xml. (The order here is
> > > >>deliberately
> > > >> >> > undefined;
> > > >> >> >            plugins should already not be relying on this.)
> > > >> >> >         4. Run the config munging for the app=E2=80=99s confi=
g.xml as
> > well.
> > > >> >> > Where I believe #4 means the plugin config-munge.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > I'd like to propose the new flow to be the following
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >         1. If defaults.xml exists, replace platform congig.xm=
l
> > > >>with it
> > > >> >> >         2. Run a generic clobbers from app.xml to platform.xm=
l
> > that
> > > >> >>will
> > > >> >> > include
> > > >> >> > processing the proposed <platform> tags.
> > > >> >> >         3. Run plugman config munge on the platform config.xm=
l
> (I
> > > >> >>believe
> > > >> >> > this should only add net new elements)
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >         4. Call a modified parser.update_project that no long=
er
> > > >>makes
> > > >> >> > changes to
> > > >> >> > the platform config.xml
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > I believe that this is complimentary with the approach Braden
> > > >> >>suggested
> > > >> >> > with one major change. I did not include plugin config mungin=
g
> on
> > > >>the
> > > >> >>app
> > > >> >> > config.xml. This is because I feel that by doing so we make t=
he
> > app
> > > >> >> > config.xml the same half build artifact half user edited mess
> > we're
> > > >> >> trying
> > > >> >> > to solve. If the list disagrees with me I will of course
> > implement
> > > >>it
> > > >> >>the
> > > >> >> > way Braden proposed it though.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > On 13-09-10 1:58 PM, "Jeffrey Heifetz" <
> jheifetz@blackberry.com>
> > > >> >>wrote:
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > >Issue Created - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-477=
4
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > >On 13-09-10 9:30 AM, "Tommy-Carlos Williams" <
> > tommy@devgeeks.org>
> > > >> >> wrote:
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > >>Then colour me excited!
> > > >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> > >>+1
> > > >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> > >>On 10/09/2013, at 11:27 PM, Andrew Grieve <
> > agrieve@chromium.org>
> > > >> >> wrote:
> > > >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> > >>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 7:37 PM, Tommy-Carlos Williams
> > > >> >> > >>><tommy@devgeeks.org>wrote:
> > > >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> > >>>> I have been following this thread with a combination of
> > > >>interest
> > > >> >>and
> > > >> >> > >>>> trepidation.
> > > >> >> > >>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>> Interest:
> > > >> >> > >>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>> Anything that works towards ./platforms being a build
> > > >>artefact I
> > > >> >>am
> > > >> >> > >>>>all
> > > >> >> > >>>> for. In our app, ./platforms is already a build artefact=
.
> We
> > > >>used
> > > >> >> > >>>>hooks to
> > > >> >> > >>>> achieve this (updating config files, copying icon / spla=
sh
> > > >> >>assets,
> > > >> >> > >>>>etc).
> > > >> >> > >>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>> Just a quick question=C5=A0 I know that
> ./platforms/../config.xml
> > > >> >>(even
> > > >> >> > >>>>after a
> > > >> >> > >>>> `cordova build =C5=A0`) still has the old defaults for n=
ame,
> > > >>author,
> > > >> >>id
> > > >> >> > >>>>etc=C5=A0 but
> > > >> >> > >>>> it doesn't seem to make any difference. We don't modify
> > > >> >> > >>>> ./platforms/../config.xml as it seemed like the
> > modifications
> > > >>to
> > > >> >> > >>>> ./www/config.xml (and our custom hook modifications to s=
ay
> > > >> >> > >>>> ./platforms/android/AndroidManifest.xml) were sufficient=
.
> > > >> >> > >>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>> What am I missing wrt there being differences between
> these
> > > >> >>files?
> > > >> >> > >>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>> Trepidation:
> > > >> >> > >>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>> Users are just starting to get a handle on how the CLI
> works
> > > >> >>(though
> > > >> >> > >>>>there
> > > >> >> > >>>> are still some ongoing issues that I see fairly regularl=
y,
> > > >>like
> > > >> >> > >>>>thinking
> > > >> >> > >>>> they still need to use Plugman directly even with CLI
> > created
> > > >> >> > >>>>projects).
> > > >> >> > >>>> Just worried more workflow changes yet again are going t=
o
> > turn
> > > >> >> people
> > > >> >> > >>>>off
> > > >> >> > >>>> the CLI entirely. I may be a bit "twice shy", so if it's
> not
> > > >> >>going
> > > >> >> to
> > > >> >> > >>>> impact users much (except for making things much better)
> > feel
> > > >> >>free
> > > >> >> to
> > > >> >> > >>>>set
> > > >> >> > >>>> me straight. hehe.
> > > >> >> > >>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>> - tommy
> > > >> >> > >>>>
> > > >> >> > >>> Some clarifications:
> > > >> >> > >>> - Change doesn't change workflow at all
> > > >> >> > >>> - Change will allow user's edits to their root config.xml
> > > >>actually
> > > >> >> work
> > > >> >> > >>>in
> > > >> >> > >>> all cases
> > > >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> > >>> Win!
> > > >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>> On 10/09/2013, at 2:57 AM, Michal Mocny <
> > mmocny@chromium.org>
> > > >> >> wrote:
> > > >> >> > >>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>> Aside from moving some files around and changing the
> order
> > of
> > > >> >> > >>>>>operations
> > > >> >> > >>>> a
> > > >> >> > >>>>> bit, the biggest change will be adding support for
> > <platform>
> > > >> >>and
> > > >> >> > >>>>> <config-file> to app.xml.  By the way, thats still call=
ed
> > > >> >> config.xml,
> > > >> >> > >>>>>do
> > > >> >> > >>>> we
> > > >> >> > >>>>> want to rename it to app.xml for 3.1?
> > > >> >> > >>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Braden Shepherdson
> > > >> >> > >>>>><braden@chromium.org
> > > >> >> > >>>>> wrote:
> > > >> >> > >>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>> I should certainly be able to. I'm digging into a majo=
r
> > > >> >> refactoring
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>of
> > > >> >> > >>>>>> Plugman right now, though, so I'll probably want to
> finish
> > > >> >>that.
> > > >> >> If
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>it's
> > > >> >> > >>>>>> taking too long, though, then I'll switch gears and ge=
t
> > > >>this in
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>before
> > > >> >> > >>>> we
> > > >> >> > >>>>>> cut 3.1.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>> Braden
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Michal Mocny <
> > > >> >> mmocny@chromium.org>
> > > >> >> > >>>> wrote:
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> Braden, are you going to be able to take this on this
> > > >>week?  I
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>think it
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> would make the upgrade from 3.0 much easier.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> -Michal
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Michal Mocny <
> > > >> >> mmocny@chromium.org>
> > > >> >> > >>>> wrote:
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>> If you would use a different helloworld app template
> > > >>(which
> > > >> >>is
> > > >> >> now
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>> possible to specify in both CLI and old workflow),
> then
> > > >>the
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> pre-generatred
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>> platform config.xml template would likely be the wro=
ng
> > > >>one,
> > > >> >>and
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>thus
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> this
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>> bundling for self documentation would be a disservic=
e.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>> I don't see very much value in documentation for
> > bundling
> > > >>the
> > > >> >> > >>>> config.xml
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>> inside the platform template (when do we suspect use=
rs
> > > >>look
> > > >> >>at
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>that
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> file,
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>> as apposed to whats actually generated inside their
> > > >> >>project?).
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>Users
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> can
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>> read what is generated after adding a platform for
> their
> > > >> >> specific
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>app
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> using
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>> their chosen flow.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>> I think that since bin/create can mush defaults.xml
> with
> > > >> >>app.xml
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>for
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> both
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>> flows, it should.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 9:21 AM, Ian Clelland
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>><iclelland@chromium.org
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 8:45 AM, Braden Shepherdson =
<
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> braden@chromium.org
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> The defaults.xml is only part of the CLI workflow,
> > yes.
> > > >>It
> > > >> >>has
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>no
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> relevance
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> if you're not using CLI. BUT there is a complete
> > > >> >>config.xml in
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>the
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> bin/create template, and it can of course have the
> > same
> > > >> >>values
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>as
> > > >> >> > >>>> you
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> would
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> get from an unchanged CLI project (defaults.xml +
> > > >>app.xml).
> > > >> >> The
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> configuration values you get from the templates
> should
> > > >>be
> > > >> >>the
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>same
> > > >> >> > >>>> in
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> both
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> cases, I agree completely.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> Yes, I think it's definitely achievable to have the
> > > >>complete
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>template
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> config.xml be exactly what you would get (modulo
> > > >>whitespace
> > > >> >>/
> > > >> >> > >>>> comments
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> /
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> etc) from installing the same sample app on the sam=
e
> > > >> >>platform
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>with
> > > >> >> > >>>> CLI.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> If we can maintain that standard, then the various
> > files
> > > >> >>become
> > > >> >> > >>>> almost
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> self-documenting; its easy to look at the final
> > > >>config.xml
> > > >> >>file
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>in
> > > >> >> > >>>> the
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> template to see how the pieces should fit together,
> and
> > > >>work
> > > >> >> out
> > > >> >> > >>>> where
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> each
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> of the tags originally came from.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> It might be worth trying to generate the template
> > > >>config.xml
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>*using*
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> cli,
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> just to maintain the correspondence between them.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> Ian
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> Braden
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 5:28 AM, James Jong
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>><wjamesjong@gmail.com>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Andrew - what I was thinking was pretty much what
> > > >>Michal
> > > >> >> wrote
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> below.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Perhaps it was my interpretation of the original
> note
> > > >>but
> > > >> >>I
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> thought
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> defaults was to be applied only in the CLI
> workflow.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> -James Jong
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 7, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Michal Mocny <
> > > >> >> mmocny@chromium.org>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> With this proposal as it stands, I think that is
> > > >>already
> > > >> >> true
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>(at
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> least
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> for
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the initial contents, obviously user can make
> edits
> > > >> >>later).
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Ie, defaults.xml + app.xml =3D initial config.xm=
l
> for
> > > >>both
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>cases,
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> which
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> use
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> the same helloworld template's app.xml.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> If there are specific differences to the default
> > > >>values
> > > >> >>that
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>we
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> want,
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> we
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> maybe will want to use a different app.xml for
> each,
> > > >>but
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> defaults.xml
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> should be tied to a platform-version not to a
> > > >>workflow.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> -Michal
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Andrew Grieve <
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> agrieve@chromium.org
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> James - that's a nice goal, but I don't think
> it's
> > > >> >> feasible.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>Did
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> you
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> have a
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> way to do that in mind?
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 10:31 PM, James Jong <
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> wjamesjong@gmail.com>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to see the defaults be applied in
> all
> > > >> >>cases.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>For
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> consistency, less confusion, and easier
> > > >>documentation.
> > > >> >> If
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>we
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> add
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> or
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> change
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the defaults in a release, both workflows shou=
ld
> > get
> > > >> >>it.
> > > >> >>  In
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>my
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> mind,
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> CLI platform config.xml should be equivalent t=
o
> > the
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>bin/create
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> one.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -James Jong
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 6, 2013, at 11:06 AM, Michal Mocny
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>><mmocny@chromium.org
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I thought we were adding support for the last
> bit
> > > >>(ie,
> > > >> >> app
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> generic
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> not
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> platform specific preferences) to "app.xml"
> which
> > > >>the
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> helloworld
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> template
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should ship with and bin/create should apply.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Michal
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Ian Clelland=
 <
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> iclelland@chromium.org
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The template version needs to be a complete
> > config
> > > >> >>file
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>for
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> the
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> sample
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> app,
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though. You should be able to run bin/create
> and
> > > >>then
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>build
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> the
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordova app immediately.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defaults.xml is supposed to be stripped righ=
t
> > > >>down to
> > > >> >> just
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> the
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> platform-specific options which, in theory,
> > > >>shouldn't
> > > >> >> need
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> to be
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> specified
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by every app.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At least that's how it works in my head :) T=
he
> > > >> >> distinction
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> may
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> be
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> less
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> important than I'm imagining.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ian
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Michal Mocny=
 <
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> mmocny@chromium.org>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If the content or format of defaults.xml an=
d
> > the
> > > >> >> initial
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> config.xml
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different then we should ship both -- but I
> > don't
> > > >> >>think
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>they
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> will
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> be,
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think we just ship the template with a
> defaults
> > > >> >>file.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Michal
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 11:19 PM, Ian
> Clelland <
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> iclelland@chromium.org
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 5:16 PM, James Jong=
 <
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> wjamesjong@gmail.com
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defaults.xml - Is that only used by CLI?
>  And
> > > >>not
> > > >> >> used
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>by
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> bin/create
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scripts?
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was bit unclear to me from the
> description
> > > >> >>since
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>both
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> were
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regarding the 2 xml files.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, that's the idea. If you're using the
> > > >> >>bin/create
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> scripts,
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> then
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a complete "config.xml" file in the templa=
te
> > > >>that
> > > >> >>will
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>be
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> used
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> for
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> app. This is for strict backwards
> > compatibility
> > > >> >>with
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> anyone's
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> workflow
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't currently include CLI.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you are using CLI, then we will
> construct a
> > > >>new
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> config.xml
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> file
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instead, from three sources: defaults.xml,
> > which
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>specifies
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> all of
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> platform defaults; the various plugin.xml
> > files,
> > > >> >>and
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>your
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> app's
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> config.xml
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file. The end-result should be the same, b=
ut
> > you
> > > >> >>have
> > > >> >> a
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> clear
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> place
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> override the defaults for your app that
> lives
> > > >> >>outside
> > > >> >> of
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> your
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> platforms
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> directory, and the cordova team has a clea=
r
> > > >>place
> > > >> >>to
> > > >> >> set
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> those
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> same
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defaults.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ian
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The new CLI prepare flow makes sense to m=
e.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -James Jong
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 5, 2013, at 2:21 PM, Michal Mocny =
<
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> mmocny@chromium.org>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We briefly discussed JSON and the two
> > thoughts
> > > >> >>were:
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (1) We like it, but really what does it
> buy
> > > >>us?
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (2) This change is at the moment 100%
> > > >>compatible
> > > >> >> with
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>all
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> current
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> workflows
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (including upgrades from 3.0->3.1), and =
we
> > > >>think
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that's
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> important
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> headache-less adoption.  JSON would
> > obviously
> > > >>not
> > > >> >> be.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regarding where to store the defaults, w=
e
> > had
> > > >> >> thought
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>it
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> would
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> be
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> a
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bundled with the platform, perhaps in
> > > >> >>bin/templates?
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Michal
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Brian
> > LeRoux
> > > >><
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> b@brian.io>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The logic flow is much safer in this
> > method.
> > > >> >>Where
> > > >> >> do
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> you
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> think
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> default.xml
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should live? (Maybe it doesn't have to
> > exist
> > > >>and
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> defaults
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> can
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> just
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vars
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the logic that does the processing?)
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this our opportunity to move to JSON=
?
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 8:21 AM, Braden
> > > >> >>Shepherdson
> > > >> >> <
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> braden@chromium.org
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> config.xml as a build artifact for les=
s
> > > >> >>suffering
> > > >> >> > and
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> easier
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> upgrades
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Terminology
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =C2=B3platform config.xml=C2=B2 refers=
 to the
> > > >> >> > platform-specific
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> config.xml
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> files,
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eg.
> platforms/android/res/xml/config.xml.
> > > >>This
> > > >> >>is
> > > >> >> > the
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> final
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordova at runtime.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =C2=B3app config.xml=C2=B2 refers to t=
he top-level
> > > >> >> config.xml
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> found
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> in
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www/config.xml.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why the current situation is suffering
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chiefly, the
> platforms/foo/.../config.xml
> > > >>files
> > > >> >> are
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> both
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> the
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> input
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> output of munging by Plugman and the
> user.
> > > >>This
> > > >> >> > sucks.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> It
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> makes
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> automatic upgrades difficult because
> > > >>everybody
> > > >> >> has a
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> customized
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> config.xml
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file in their platforms. It also makes
> > > >>plugin
> > > >> >>rm
> > > >> >> > harder
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> and
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> less
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> robust
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CLI than it needs to be.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Currently only some tags in the app
> > > >>config.xml
> > > >> >>are
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> actually
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> honoured.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Others are ignored, and this has tripp=
ed
> > up
> > > >>our
> > > >> >> > users.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Goals
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bin/create workflow is unchanged.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Final content of the platform config.x=
ml
> > > >>file
> > > >> >>is
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> unchanged,
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> method of building it in the CLI can
> > change.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CLI workflow is unchanged, in terms of
> > what
> > > >>a
> > > >> >>user
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> types.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> platform config.xml stops being both
> input
> > > >>and
> > > >> >> > output
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> under
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> CLI.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Less
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> munging, and easier upgrades. In short=
,
> > > >> >>platform
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> config.xml
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> files
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> become
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> build artifacts.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What we propose to do about it
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First, adjust the platform template
> (used
> > by
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> bin/create)
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> to
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contain
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> files:
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  defaults.xml, which is versioned,
> > > >>immutable,
> > > >> >>and
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> tucked
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> away
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  somewhere (only CLI accesses it) and
> > > >>contains
> > > >> >> only
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> the
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordova-specified
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  platform defaults, such as the
> > preferences,
> > > >> >>any
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> default
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whitelist entries,
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  etc. It does NOT contain any <author>=
,
> > > >><name>
> > > >> >>or
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> other
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> such
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tags.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  -
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  platform config.xml, which is the sam=
e
> as
> > > >>it
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> currently
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> is, a
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> complete
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  config.xml for the HelloWorld app. Th=
is
> > > >>means
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> behavior
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> is
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unchanged
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  for people who are not using CLI.
> Plugman
> > > >> >>still
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> munges
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> this
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  outputs back to it, same as now.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  -
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Second, adjust the CLI=C2=B9s cordova =
create
> > > >> >>template
> > > >> >> so
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> that
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> its
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top-level
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> app config.xml contains <name>,
> <author>,
> > > >> >> <content>,
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> etc.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> -
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tags
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user is likely to edit.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Third, modify the CLI so that the new
> > > >>cordova
> > > >> >> > prepare
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> flow
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> is:
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Delete the old platform config.xml.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  -
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Copy the defaults.xml to config.xml.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  -
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Re-run the Plugman config munging for
> > every
> > > >> >> plugin,
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> modifying
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  fresh platform config.xml. (The order
> > here
> > > >>is
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> deliberately
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> undefined;
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  plugins should already not be relying
> on
> > > >> >>this.)
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  -
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Run the config munging for the app=C2=
=B9s
> > > >> >>config.xml
> > > >> >> as
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> well.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  -
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  This results in a freshly built,
> > > >> >>build-artifact
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> platform
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> config.xml.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Users should not be editing it; their
> > > >> >>top-level
> > > >> >> app
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> config.xml
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has the last
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  word and will override any settings t=
he
> > > >> >>defaults
> > > >> >> or
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> plugins
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  -
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     Note that this means we shouldn=C2=
=B9t be
> > > >> >> needlessly
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> setting
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> defaults
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     in the app  config.xml, since this
> > might
> > > >> >> prevent
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>> plugins
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changing
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     things that need changing.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     -
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fourth, extend the app config.xml form=
at
> > so
> > > >> >>that
> > > >> >> it
> > > >> >> > can
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> have
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <platform>tags, like a plugin.xml.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Into this it can put platform-specifi=
c
> > > >>things
> > > >> >> like
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> splashscreens,
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  preferences and other things, rather
> than
> > > >> >>mixing
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>> these
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> together
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  config.
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  -
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  In particular, it can have
> <config-file>
> > > >>tags
> > > >> >>in
> > > >> >> > the
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>> usual
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> format
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>
> > > >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > >
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