Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-cordova-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-cordova-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9A2891031A for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 19:02:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 27374 invoked by uid 500); 30 Jul 2013 19:02:23 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cordova-dev-archive@cordova.apache.org Received: (qmail 27345 invoked by uid 500); 30 Jul 2013 19:02:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cordova.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@cordova.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cordova.apache.org Received: (qmail 27337 invoked by uid 99); 30 Jul 2013 19:02:22 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 19:02:22 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of fil@adobe.com designates 64.18.1.78 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.18.1.78] (HELO exprod6og127.obsmtp.com) (64.18.1.78) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 19:02:16 +0000 Received: from outbound-smtp-2.corp.adobe.com ([193.104.215.16]) by exprod6ob127.postini.com ([64.18.5.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUfgNoS+HekIhZk6U6OxwJ0iE7L34lKim@postini.com; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:01:55 PDT Received: from inner-relay-2.corp.adobe.com (mail-321.pac.adobe.com [153.32.1.52]) by outbound-smtp-2.corp.adobe.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id r6UJ1pAI005984 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:01:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nacas01.corp.adobe.com (nacas01.corp.adobe.com [10.8.189.99]) by inner-relay-2.corp.adobe.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id r6UJ0jwK002127 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:01:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nambxv01a.corp.adobe.com ([10.8.189.95]) by nacas01.corp.adobe.com ([10.8.189.99]) with mapi; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:01:12 -0700 From: Filip Maj To: "dev@cordova.apache.org" Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 12:01:06 -0700 Subject: Re: Android - Removing the .api namespace Thread-Topic: Android - Removing the .api namespace Thread-Index: Ac6NVyglCDXhBNlaQYqa5Mu76u0EIA== Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.5.130515 acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Bah, this thread must have slipped my radar, apologies. I was replying to the other one. Sigh. On 7/30/13 11:57 AM, "Joe Bowser" wrote: >So, yeah, remember how I fought this, and then suddenly we came to >consensus because it's better to break everything all at once? > >https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-4454 > >Can we actually follow our deprecation policy from now on? There's >people there who are being unreasonable and asking for us to extend >deprecation times to be a year in length because we do things like >this. > > >On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Simon MacDonald > wrote: >> Yup, break everything at once. >> >> >> Simon Mac Donald >> http://hi.im/simonmacdonald >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Marcel Kinard >>wrote: >> >>> Normally being very averse to changing pubic API's, I'm with Andrew and >>> Ian on this. If we are going to be making breaking changes, especially >>>if >>> they are small, do them all at once. >>> >>> On Jul 9, 2013, at 11:06 PM, Joe Bowser wrote: >>> >>> > So far, we've asked plugin developers to migrate from the old-style >>> > plugins to CordovaPlugin so that their plugins will work with 3.0.0. >>> > Many plugin developers have already done that. >>> >>> We have migrated our plugins, but have third-party plugins done the >>>same? >>> Or do they wait for us to release the breaking change and then they are >>> "forced" to update their plugin? I'm guessing the latter, but that is >>>just >>> a guess. >>> >>> I think what would help here is a Plugin Migration Guide in >>>cordova-docs >>> that gives a nice list of what the plugin developer needs to do. Most >>> plugin devs are probably OK with making changes, as long as we tell >>>them >>> what they need to know. >>> >>> If there is a third-party plugin that an app developer needs that is >>> abandonware, then they can stick with 2.9.x until the plugin gets >>>updated. >>> >>>