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Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 22:48:15 -0400
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Subject: Re: cordova-app-harness and the App Store
From: Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io>
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Quick update:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-174

As the agreements are currently offline we're in a bit of a holding
pattern but getting closer! Companies planning downstream versions
should be getting this ball rolling w/ their legal entities too.


On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io> wrote:
> Still bumping around in legal. Sorry for the delay everyone.
>
> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 7:06 PM, Anis KADRI <anis.kadri@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Awesome! Apache is the way to go!
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io> wrote:
>>
>>> Word on the legal list is that yes this is possible. Just finding out
>>> whom has the keys (or if they even exist yet) for the Apple Developer
>>> account for the ASF.
>>>
>>> Even though we *just* shipped 3 I have to say I'm really excited for
>>> this capability for the development flow. =)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Shazron <shazron@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > +1 for Apache handling it first, if possible.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Ya ppl are going to freak out for this functionality. =)
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Michal Mocny <mmocny@chromium.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> > I haven't actually played with this yet.  I think this would make an
>>> >> > awesome blog post.  Found an old note that says "record a video to
>>> show
>>> >> off
>>> >> > the app-harness".  I still think thats a good idea.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> I'll ping the legal list to see what the process is for deploying to
>>> >> >> proprietary channels.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Simon MacDonald
>>> >> >> <simon.macdonald@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >> > I think it makes sense for Apache to own it in the app store. It
>>> also
>>> >> >> > leaves groups like Adobe, Google, etc. the opportunity to drop
>>> their
>>> >> >> > own versions of the app-harness with additional proprietary
>>> >> >> > functionality.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Simon Mac Donald
>>> >> >> > http://hi.im/simonmacdonald
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Lorin Beer <
>>> >> lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com>
>>> >> >> wrote:
>>> >> >> >> I agree with your breakdown of options in order of sanity, Braden
>>> :)
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Ideally this should be owned by the organization that owns the
>>> code:
>>> >> the
>>> >> >> >> Apache Cordova Project. While an acceptable second would be for
>>> the
>>> >> >> Adobe
>>> >> >> >> Cordova Team to publish it, I think there is a precedent for an
>>> >> Apache
>>> >> >> >> project owning and managing an appstore account.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> Apache OpenOffice is made available through the mac appstore.
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> - Lorin
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Braden Shepherdson <
>>> >> >> braden@chromium.org>wrote:
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >>> So we've got a working app harness in the cordova-app-harness
>>> repo.
>>> >> >> One of
>>> >> >> >>> the founding goals for the app harness was that it could be
>>> placed
>>> >> >> into the
>>> >> >> >>> Play Store and App Store.
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> Then the question is: who owns the apps in the various markets?
>>> It
>>> >> >> seems to
>>> >> >> >>> me that there are four possibilities:
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> 1. Apache Cordova project (Can we do that under Apache's rules?
>>> >> Apple's
>>> >> >> >>> rules? Is there precedent at Apache for App Store accounts and
>>> >> such?)
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> 2. Adobe PhoneGap team
>>> >> >> >>> 3. Google Cordova/Mobile Chrome Apps team
>>> >> >> >>> (4. Some individual person from one of the above, separately from
>>> >> the
>>> >> >> >>> larger organization.)
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> These are in descending order of how sane I think they are. If
>>> it's
>>> >> >> >>> possible for the Apache project to control the AppStore accounts,
>>> >> that
>>> >> >> >>> would be best. If not, the PhoneGap team is probably the best
>>> way to
>>> >> >> go.
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> Thoughts?
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >> >>> Braden
>>> >> >> >>>
>>> >> >>
>>> >>
>>>