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Subject: Re: Wondering what folks think about the default project
From: Lucas Holmquist <lholmqui@redhat.com>
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Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 10:26:39 -0400
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+1 to keeping the default template,  but the ability to change it if you =
want to
On Jul 12, 2013, at 10:18 AM, Shazron <shazron@gmail.com> wrote:

> Carlos I think that is essentially what others have proposed here - =
specify
> a template to use.
>=20
> Personally I like the default project to still be the default, if only =
for
> the majority of our users who are not more experienced programmers. =
More
> experienced programmers will not be put off by specifying a template =
option
> for a blank template, IMO (but for less experienced people, I contend =
it is
> the reverse).
>=20
> While helping users troubleshoot in the Google Groups, or =
investigating
> bugs in JIRA, I often tell a user to create a new project (thus using =
the
> default template) and isolate their bug there, so we have a common =
base to
> verify and test bugs.
>=20
>=20
> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Carlos Santana =
<csantana23@gmail.com>wrote:
>=20
>> can it be an option to the cordova cli?
>> cordova create [--noHelloApp]
>> or
>> cordova create [--blankIndexHTML]
>>=20
>> You get the point
>>=20
>> I vote for default to have defaultApp included.
>> It provides gratification of every "Hello World" gives when starting =
with
>> something new.
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 1:26 AM, Michael Jackson =
<mjijackson@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>=20
>>> I really like the default app. As a brand new cordova dev it helped =
me
>>> understand how to get started with it.
>>>=20
>>> --
>>> Michael Jackson
>>> @mjackson
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Ray Camden <raycamde@adobe.com> =
wrote:
>>>=20
>>>> I can add this as a Jira item if it makes sense, but, what do folks
>> think
>>>> about the following:
>>>>=20
>>>> I'd like to propose that the 'default' PG app created by the CLI be
>>>> changed. Right now it is cool. Looks neat. But is completely
>> unnecessary
>>>> after you've after learned how to use PG. It's a great example for
>> folks
>>>> learning PG, but for those of us who know and just want to get =
started
>>>> quickly, it actually takes me more time to *remove* the HTML, CSS, =
and
>> JS
>>>> used in the default then it does to create a new project. Not to be
>> over
>>>> dramatic, but it really is the worst part of the process for me. =
Then
>>>> again, I tend to make quite a few POCs with the CLI so this issue =
hits
>> me
>>>> more often than normal probably.
>>>>=20
>>>> I know the CLI is just copying a template (I've blogged on this
>> before),
>>>> but shouldn't the default be something better for developers?
>>>>=20
>>>>=20
>>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> --
>> Carlos Santana
>> <csantana23@gmail.com>
>>=20