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From Filip Maj <...@adobe.com>
Subject Re: Android - Removing the .api namespace
Date Tue, 30 Jul 2013 19:36:47 GMT
I dare you to idle in #phonegap on irc.freenode.net and answer every
plugin-related question.

On 7/30/13 12:33 PM, "Filip Maj" <fil@adobe.com> wrote:

>As for who is getting angry/confused, I am helping folk on #cordova IRC
>upgrade their plugins because it won't work / not accounted for in the
>upgrade guides.
>
>On 7/30/13 12:12 PM, "Tommy-Carlos Williams" <tommy@devgeeks.org> wrote:
>
>>I don't wanna sound like I am being a pain, but reallyŠ the whole
>>deprecation policy thing is a bit pointless if it's not followed, and not
>>noisy.
>>
>>Most people who use plugins, use other people's plugins, they don't build
>>them themselves.
>>
>>The use of plugins so far in the life of Cordova has been one of massive
>>pain when in fact it should have been one of Cordova's shining lights.
>>
>>As one of the people that *does* face developer/end user wrath when this
>>stuff gets broken every few months, it would be really nice if the
>>Cordova devs doing the breaking could also be those to help the fixing.
>>
>>Blog posts. We need more. I can try to help on this and it's right up my
>>alley, but I am also in the middle of trying to ship an app, so time is
>>tight.
>>
>>I'll try to write a post on taking a 2.x plugin (say an example from
>>phonegap/phonegap-plugins) and turning it into a working 3.x plugin when
>>I get back to Australia. However, if a week has gone by and I haven't
>>been able to, can anyone put their hand up to do it in my stead?
>>Realistically it needs to cover Android and iOS at a minimum (the plugin
>>ecosystem for the other platforms is much smaller).
>>
>>Any takers?
>>
>>- tommy 
>>
>>On 30/07/2013, at 11:57 AM, Joe Bowser <bowserj@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> So, yeah, remember how I fought this, and then suddenly we came to
>>> consensus because it's better to break everything all at once?
>>> 
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-4454
>>> 
>>> Can we actually follow our deprecation policy from now on? There's
>>> people there who are being unreasonable and asking for us to extend
>>> deprecation times to be a year in length because we do things like
>>> this.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Simon MacDonald
>>> <simon.macdonald@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Yup, break everything at once.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Simon Mac Donald
>>>> http://hi.im/simonmacdonald
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Marcel Kinard <cmarcelk@gmail.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Normally being very averse to changing pubic API's, I'm with Andrew
>>>>>and
>>>>> Ian on this. If we are going to be making breaking changes,
>>>>>especially if
>>>>> they are small, do them all at once.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 9, 2013, at 11:06 PM, Joe Bowser <bowserj@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> So far, we've asked plugin developers to migrate from the old-style
>>>>>> plugins to CordovaPlugin so that their plugins will work with 3.0.0.
>>>>>> Many plugin developers have already done that.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We have migrated our plugins, but have third-party plugins done the
>>>>>same?
>>>>> Or do they wait for us to release the breaking change and then they
>>>>>are
>>>>> "forced" to update their plugin? I'm guessing the latter, but that is
>>>>>just
>>>>> a guess.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think what would help here is a Plugin Migration Guide in
>>>>>cordova-docs
>>>>> that gives a nice list of what the plugin developer needs to do. Most
>>>>> plugin devs are probably OK with making changes, as long as we tell
>>>>>them
>>>>> what they need to know.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If there is a third-party plugin that an app developer needs that is
>>>>> abandonware, then they can stick with 2.9.x until the plugin gets
>>>>>updated.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>
>


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