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From Filip Maj <>
Subject Re: Android - Removing the .api namespace
Date Tue, 30 Jul 2013 19:33:03 GMT
As for who is getting angry/confused, I am helping folk on #cordova IRC
upgrade their plugins because it won't work / not accounted for in the
upgrade guides.

On 7/30/13 12:12 PM, "Tommy-Carlos Williams" <> wrote:

>I don't wanna sound like I am being a pain, but reallyŠ the whole
>deprecation policy thing is a bit pointless if it's not followed, and not
>Most people who use plugins, use other people's plugins, they don't build
>them themselves.
>The use of plugins so far in the life of Cordova has been one of massive
>pain when in fact it should have been one of Cordova's shining lights.
>As one of the people that *does* face developer/end user wrath when this
>stuff gets broken every few months, it would be really nice if the
>Cordova devs doing the breaking could also be those to help the fixing.
>Blog posts. We need more. I can try to help on this and it's right up my
>alley, but I am also in the middle of trying to ship an app, so time is
>I'll try to write a post on taking a 2.x plugin (say an example from
>phonegap/phonegap-plugins) and turning it into a working 3.x plugin when
>I get back to Australia. However, if a week has gone by and I haven't
>been able to, can anyone put their hand up to do it in my stead?
>Realistically it needs to cover Android and iOS at a minimum (the plugin
>ecosystem for the other platforms is much smaller).
>Any takers?
>- tommy 
>On 30/07/2013, at 11:57 AM, Joe Bowser <> wrote:
>> So, yeah, remember how I fought this, and then suddenly we came to
>> consensus because it's better to break everything all at once?
>> Can we actually follow our deprecation policy from now on? There's
>> people there who are being unreasonable and asking for us to extend
>> deprecation times to be a year in length because we do things like
>> this.
>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Simon MacDonald
>> <> wrote:
>>> Yup, break everything at once.
>>> Simon Mac Donald
>>> On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Marcel Kinard <>
>>>> Normally being very averse to changing pubic API's, I'm with Andrew
>>>> Ian on this. If we are going to be making breaking changes,
>>>>especially if
>>>> they are small, do them all at once.
>>>> On Jul 9, 2013, at 11:06 PM, Joe Bowser <> wrote:
>>>>> So far, we've asked plugin developers to migrate from the old-style
>>>>> plugins to CordovaPlugin so that their plugins will work with 3.0.0.
>>>>> Many plugin developers have already done that.
>>>> We have migrated our plugins, but have third-party plugins done the
>>>> Or do they wait for us to release the breaking change and then they
>>>> "forced" to update their plugin? I'm guessing the latter, but that is
>>>> a guess.
>>>> I think what would help here is a Plugin Migration Guide in
>>>> that gives a nice list of what the plugin developer needs to do. Most
>>>> plugin devs are probably OK with making changes, as long as we tell
>>>> what they need to know.
>>>> If there is a third-party plugin that an app developer needs that is
>>>> abandonware, then they can stick with 2.9.x until the plugin gets

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