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From: Filip Maj <fil@adobe.com>
To: "dev@cordova.apache.org" <dev@cordova.apache.org>
Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 08:37:18 -0700
Subject: Re: blackberry 10 migration
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So just to touch on this again, BlackBerry's work on cordova-plugman has
been merged into master and is working great.

CLI still to be sorted but that's a work in progress anyways.

On 5/13/13 10:26 AM, "Lorin Beer" <lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com> wrote:

>Alright, I think this is sufficient for the merge into apache master.
>We are leaving the cli and plugman contributions to Fil and Anis to sort
>out, I'll be merging
>docs
>cordova-js
>blackberry
>
>- Lorin
>
>
>On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 7:32 AM, Bryan Higgins
><bryan@bryanhiggins.net>wrote:
>
>> Hi Lorin,
>>
>> The first drafts of getting started and plugin development are out on a
>> pull request. Command line usage should be there as well today.
>>
>> https://github.com/apache/cordova-docs/pull/40
>>
>> There are a few other pull requests in cordova-blackberry and cordova-js
>> which are ready to be merged in. Could you help with that? I created
>>JIRA
>> issues for all of them last week. Anything which has been reviewed and
>> tested will have a "ready to merge" comment. It would be good to get
>>them
>> into future before merging into master so we don't have to re-target
>> everything again.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Bryan
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Ken Wallis <kwallis@blackberry.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>> > Thanks Lorin.  Exciting times for us to see this in Apache. ;)
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Ken Wallis
>> >
>> > Product Manager =AD WebWorks
>> >
>> > BlackBerry
>> >
>> > 289-261-4369
>> >
>> > ________________________________________
>> > From: Lorin Beer [lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com]
>> > Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 8:26 AM
>> > To: dev
>> > Subject: Re: blackberry 10 migration
>> >
>> > pulled into apache:
>> >
>> > github.com/blackberry/
>> >   cordova-blackberry to future branch
>> >   cordova-js to future branch
>> >   cordova-cli to apache future-bb10 branch
>> >   cordova-plugman to apache future branch
>> >
>> >
>> > spoke briefly with Anis concerning merging into plugman and cli, this
>> will
>> > likely wait until Fil Maj is back from Max. The plugman changes seem
>>to
>> be
>> > orthogonal to the master/future branch (ie non-breaking).
>> >
>> > as for cordova-js and cordova-blackberry, plan is to merge those as
>>soon
>> as
>> > docs are in place.
>> >
>> > It can take a few hours for the github mirrors to catch up to
>>git-apache,
>> > but retarget those pull requests anytime.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Lorin Beer <lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > will do
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Bryan Higgins
>><bhiggins@blackberry.com
>> > >wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Ok, I'm about to merge from blackberry/blackberry10-rebase into
>> > >> blackberry/blackberry10
>> > >>
>> > >> Let me know when you have pushed into apache. There are some open
>>pull
>> > >> requests which I will re-target.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Jeffrey Heifetz <
>> > jheifetz@blackberry.com
>> > >> >wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> > What about plugman and cli?
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Rogers network.
>> > >> > From: Lorin Beer
>> > >> > Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 7:04 PM
>> > >> > To: dev
>> > >> > Reply To: dev@cordova.apache.org
>> > >> > Subject: Re: blackberry 10 migration
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > ok, we'll pull the code from Blackberry/Blackberry-Cordova and
>> > >> > Blackberry/Cordova-JS into branches in the apache repos. When the
>> docs
>> > >> are
>> > >> > ready, we'll merge them into master.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Bryan Higgins <
>> > bhiggins@blackberry.com
>> > >> > >wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> > > Hi Lorin,
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > That's great. I think we should be able to get out a rough
>>draft
>> > over
>> > >> the
>> > >> > > next couple days.
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Lorin Beer <
>> > lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com>
>> > >> > > wrote:
>> > >> > >
>> > >> > > > Hi Bryan, a quick update:
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > I'll be pulling the code in as soon as docs are in place.
>>Let me
>> > >> know
>> > >> > > when
>> > >> > > > you can push a rough draft at us!
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > - Lorin
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Lorin Beer <
>> > >> lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com>
>> > >> > > > wrote:
>> > >> > > >
>> > >> > > > > sounds awesome! Brian is trying to set up a meetings with
>>our
>> > >> teams
>> > >> > > next
>> > >> > > > > week after Max, so I think we are pushing for a post-Max
>> > migration
>> > >> > > date,
>> > >> > > > > late next week.
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > thanks for the update Bryan,
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > Lorin
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 5:24 AM, Bryan Higgins <
>> > >> > bhiggins@blackberry.com
>> > >> > > > >wrote:
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >> Hi Lorin,
>> > >> > > > >>
>> > >> > > > >> We will update to 2.7.0 today and I'm meeting with the
>>docs
>> > >> people
>> > >> > > this
>> > >> > > > >> afternoon.
>> > >> > > > >>
>> > >> > > > >> If they don't have anything ready, I can bang out a draft
>> while
>> > >> I'm
>> > >> > > > flying
>> > >> > > > >> out to Max on Sunday.
>> > >> > > > >>
>> > >> > > > >> Thanks,
>> > >> > > > >> Bryan
>> > >> > > > >>
>> > >> > > > >>
>> > >> > > > >> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Lorin Beer <
>> > >> > lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com>
>> > >> > > > >> wrote:
>> > >> > > > >>
>> > >> > > > >> > Hi Bryan,
>> > >> > > > >> >
>> > >> > > > >> > any progress on the doc side of things? From my
>>experience
>> > with
>> > >> > the
>> > >> > > > new
>> > >> > > > >> > codebase, I shouldn't think that documenting the
>>necessary
>> > >> > workflows
>> > >> > > > >> > (plugins, getting started, etc) should be too time
>> consuming.
>> > >> > > > >> > Currently docs and updating to 2.7.0 are the only
>>blockers
>> to
>> > >> > > pulling
>> > >> > > > >> the
>> > >> > > > >> > blackerry/cordova-blackberry repo into Apache. I would
>> really
>> > >> like
>> > >> > > to
>> > >> > > > >> see
>> > >> > > > >> > this happen this week or early next week.
>> > >> > > > >> >
>> > >> > > > >> > - Lorin
>> > >> > > > >> >
>> > >> > > > >> >
>> > >> > > > >> > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Lorin Beer <
>> > >> > > lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com
>> > >> > > > >> > >wrote:
>> > >> > > > >> >
>> > >> > > > >> > > thanks Bryan
>> > >> > > > >> > >
>> > >> > > > >> > > 1. great to hear, once docs are in place, we'll pull
>> those
>> > in
>> > >> > > > >> alongside
>> > >> > > > >> > > the core BB implementation
>> > >> > > > >> > >
>> > >> > > > >> > > 2. ok, I see. There was a little confusion on our end
>> about
>> > >> > this.
>> > >> > > > What
>> > >> > > > >> > I'd
>> > >> > > > >> > > like to see is node not visible as an external
>> dependency.
>> > >> > > > >> > >
>> > >> > > > >> > > 4. check to see why it's building projects with
>>2.4.0-rc1
>> > >> > > > >> > >
>> > >> > > > >> > > 5. saw that, this will be pulled in alongside docs and
>> the
>> > >> core
>> > >> > BB
>> > >> > > > >> repo
>> > >> > > > >> > >
>> > >> > > > >> > >
>> > >> > > > >> > > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Bryan Higgins <
>> > >> > > > >> bryan@bryanhiggins.net
>> > >> > > > >> > >wrote:
>> > >> > > > >> > >
>> > >> > > > >> > >> Thanks for following up Lorin.
>> > >> > > > >> > >>
>> > >> > > > >> > >> We're actively working on a bunch of things, some of
>> this
>> > >> > > included.
>> > >> > > > >> You
>> > >> > > > >> > >> can
>> > >> > > > >> > >> follow commits in the blackberry10 branch on our
>>forks
>> to
>> > >> keep
>> > >> > > tabs
>> > >> > > > >> on
>> > >> > > > >> > us.
>> > >> > > > >> > >>
>> > >> > > > >> > >> I'll go update the JIRA tickets, but here are the
>> answers
>> > to
>> > >> > your
>> > >> > > > >> > specific
>> > >> > > > >> > >> questions:
>> > >> > > > >> > >>
>> > >> > > > >> > >> 1. Our docs team is working on these, but they
>>haven't
>> yet
>> > >> > pushed
>> > >> > > > >> > anything
>> > >> > > > >> > >> to the fork. I'll follow up.
>> > >> > > > >> > >>
>> > >> > > > >> > >> 2. We don't actually have node packaged in the repo.
>>For
>> > >> > > WebWorks,
>> > >> > > > >> it is
>> > >> > > > >> > >> added in during the build process of the
>>distributable.
>> > I'm
>> > >> > fine
>> > >> > > > with
>> > >> > > > >> > >> adding it and I also think it makes sense to call npm
>> > >> install
>> > >> > on
>> > >> > > > >> > >> ./bin/create if the node_modules aren't present.
>> > >> > > > >> > >>
>> > >> > > > >> > >> 3. Agree, help message could be improved
>> > >> > > > >> > >>
>> > >> > > > >> > >> 4. We re-based the forks a week or so ago, but still
>> need
>> > to
>> > >> > > bring
>> > >> > > > in
>> > >> > > > >> > >> hello
>> > >> > > > >> > >> world and update versions.
>> > >> > > > >> > >>
>> > >> > > > >> > >> 5. We have a fork of cordova-js that introduces
>> > blackberry10
>> > >> > as a
>> > >> > > > >> > >> platform.
>> > >> > > > >> > >>
>> > >> > > > >> > >>
>> > >> > > > >> > >>
>> > >> > > > >> > >>
>> > >> > > > >> > >> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Lorin Beer <
>> > >> > > > lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com
>> > >> > > > >> >
>> > >> > > > >> > >> wrote:
>> > >> > > > >> > >>
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > I want to keep the conversation going concerning
>>the
>> > >> imminent
>> > >> > > > >> > migration
>> > >> > > > >> > >> of
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > BlackBerry's BB10 implementation to Apache Cordova,
>> > >> replacing
>> > >> > > the
>> > >> > > > >> > >> existing
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > implementation.
>> > >> > > > >> > >> >
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > The issues that need to be completed are being
>>tracked
>> > >> here:
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-3070
>> > >> > > > >> > >> >
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > With the file system implemented, the BB10
>> > implementation
>> > >> is
>> > >> > > > only 3
>> > >> > > > >> > >> tests
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > behind the existing Cordova BB10 implementation,
>>and
>> is
>> > >> > stable
>> > >> > > > >> enough
>> > >> > > > >> > to
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > accept.
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > There are, however, a few minor obstacles:
>> > >> > > > >> > >> >
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > 1. documentation
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > - BB10 plugin development
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > - getting started guide
>> > >> > > > >> > >> >
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > both need to be updated to match the new
>> implementation.
>> > >> If
>> > >> > > this
>> > >> > > > >> work
>> > >> > > > >> > is
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > done, please point me to it, but I couldn't see it
>>in
>> > the
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > Blackberry/cordova-docs fork
>> > >> > > > >> > >> >
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > 2. create script
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > the create script for BB10 depends on node. This is
>> not
>> > an
>> > >> > > issue,
>> > >> > > > >> as I
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > understand that node comes packaged with. However,
>>I
>> > would
>> > >> > like
>> > >> > > > to
>> > >> > > > >> see
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > package configuration to happen automatically (the
>>npm
>> > >> > install
>> > >> > > > >> step)
>> > >> > > > >> > >> rather
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > than explicitly.
>> > >> > > > >> > >> >
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > 3. project create scripts
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > needs better help messages and documentation
>> > >> > > > >> > >> >
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > 4. 2.7.0 support
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > build tools seem to use 2.4.0-rc1. This needs to be
>> > >> brought
>> > >> > up
>> > >> > > to
>> > >> > > > >> > 2.7.0
>> > >> > > > >> > >> >
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > 5. cordova-js
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > it looks like BB10 uses it's own version of
>> cordova.js,
>> > we
>> > >> > need
>> > >> > > > to
>> > >> > > > >> add
>> > >> > > > >> > >> this
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > to platforms in cordova-js
>> > >> > > > >> > >> >
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > Ken, Bryan and any of the BlackBerry folks, please
>> chime
>> > >> in
>> > >> > to
>> > >> > > > >> correct
>> > >> > > > >> > >> any
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > misunderstandings, point us to completed work, or
>> > discuss
>> > >> the
>> > >> > > > >> above.
>> > >> > > > >> > >> >
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > I would also encourage participation on the jira
>>issue
>> > >> > > discussion
>> > >> > > > >> > >> threads.
>> > >> > > > >> > >> >
>> > >> > > > >> > >> > - Lorin
>> > >> > > > >> > >> >
>> > >> > > > >> > >>
>> > >> > > > >> > >
>> > >> > > > >> > >
>> > >> > > > >> >
>> > >> > > > >>
>> > >> > > > >
>> > >> > > > >
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>> > >> > >
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