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Date: Mon, 13 May 2013 10:32:24 -0400
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Subject: Re: blackberry 10 migration
From: Bryan Higgins <bryan@bryanhiggins.net>
To: dev@cordova.apache.org
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Hi Lorin,

The first drafts of getting started and plugin development are out on a
pull request. Command line usage should be there as well today.

https://github.com/apache/cordova-docs/pull/40

There are a few other pull requests in cordova-blackberry and cordova-js
which are ready to be merged in. Could you help with that? I created JIRA
issues for all of them last week. Anything which has been reviewed and
tested will have a "ready to merge" comment. It would be good to get them
into future before merging into master so we don't have to re-target
everything again.

Thanks,
Bryan


On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Ken Wallis <kwallis@blackberry.com> wrote:

> Thanks Lorin.  Exciting times for us to see this in Apache. ;)
>
> --
>
> Ken Wallis
>
> Product Manager =96 WebWorks
>
> BlackBerry
>
> 289-261-4369
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Lorin Beer [lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 8:26 AM
> To: dev
> Subject: Re: blackberry 10 migration
>
> pulled into apache:
>
> github.com/blackberry/
>   cordova-blackberry to future branch
>   cordova-js to future branch
>   cordova-cli to apache future-bb10 branch
>   cordova-plugman to apache future branch
>
>
> spoke briefly with Anis concerning merging into plugman and cli, this wil=
l
> likely wait until Fil Maj is back from Max. The plugman changes seem to b=
e
> orthogonal to the master/future branch (ie non-breaking).
>
> as for cordova-js and cordova-blackberry, plan is to merge those as soon =
as
> docs are in place.
>
> It can take a few hours for the github mirrors to catch up to git-apache,
> but retarget those pull requests anytime.
>
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Lorin Beer <lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > will do
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Bryan Higgins <bhiggins@blackberry.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Ok, I'm about to merge from blackberry/blackberry10-rebase into
> >> blackberry/blackberry10
> >>
> >> Let me know when you have pushed into apache. There are some open pull
> >> requests which I will re-target.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Jeffrey Heifetz <
> jheifetz@blackberry.com
> >> >wrote:
> >>
> >> > What about plugman and cli?
> >> >
> >> > Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Rogers network.
> >> > From: Lorin Beer
> >> > Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 7:04 PM
> >> > To: dev
> >> > Reply To: dev@cordova.apache.org
> >> > Subject: Re: blackberry 10 migration
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ok, we'll pull the code from Blackberry/Blackberry-Cordova and
> >> > Blackberry/Cordova-JS into branches in the apache repos. When the do=
cs
> >> are
> >> > ready, we'll merge them into master.
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Bryan Higgins <
> bhiggins@blackberry.com
> >> > >wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Hi Lorin,
> >> > >
> >> > > That's great. I think we should be able to get out a rough draft
> over
> >> the
> >> > > next couple days.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Lorin Beer <
> lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Hi Bryan, a quick update:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I'll be pulling the code in as soon as docs are in place. Let me
> >> know
> >> > > when
> >> > > > you can push a rough draft at us!
> >> > > >
> >> > > > - Lorin
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Lorin Beer <
> >> lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com>
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > sounds awesome! Brian is trying to set up a meetings with our
> >> teams
> >> > > next
> >> > > > > week after Max, so I think we are pushing for a post-Max
> migration
> >> > > date,
> >> > > > > late next week.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > thanks for the update Bryan,
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Lorin
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 5:24 AM, Bryan Higgins <
> >> > bhiggins@blackberry.com
> >> > > > >wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> Hi Lorin,
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> We will update to 2.7.0 today and I'm meeting with the docs
> >> people
> >> > > this
> >> > > > >> afternoon.
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> If they don't have anything ready, I can bang out a draft whi=
le
> >> I'm
> >> > > > flying
> >> > > > >> out to Max on Sunday.
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> Thanks,
> >> > > > >> Bryan
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Lorin Beer <
> >> > lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com>
> >> > > > >> wrote:
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> > Hi Bryan,
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > any progress on the doc side of things? From my experience
> with
> >> > the
> >> > > > new
> >> > > > >> > codebase, I shouldn't think that documenting the necessary
> >> > workflows
> >> > > > >> > (plugins, getting started, etc) should be too time consumin=
g.
> >> > > > >> > Currently docs and updating to 2.7.0 are the only blockers =
to
> >> > > pulling
> >> > > > >> the
> >> > > > >> > blackerry/cordova-blackberry repo into Apache. I would real=
ly
> >> like
> >> > > to
> >> > > > >> see
> >> > > > >> > this happen this week or early next week.
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > - Lorin
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Lorin Beer <
> >> > > lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com
> >> > > > >> > >wrote:
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > > thanks Bryan
> >> > > > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > > 1. great to hear, once docs are in place, we'll pull thos=
e
> in
> >> > > > >> alongside
> >> > > > >> > > the core BB implementation
> >> > > > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > > 2. ok, I see. There was a little confusion on our end abo=
ut
> >> > this.
> >> > > > What
> >> > > > >> > I'd
> >> > > > >> > > like to see is node not visible as an external dependency=
.
> >> > > > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > > 4. check to see why it's building projects with 2.4.0-rc1
> >> > > > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > > 5. saw that, this will be pulled in alongside docs and th=
e
> >> core
> >> > BB
> >> > > > >> repo
> >> > > > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Bryan Higgins <
> >> > > > >> bryan@bryanhiggins.net
> >> > > > >> > >wrote:
> >> > > > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > >> Thanks for following up Lorin.
> >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > > > >> > >> We're actively working on a bunch of things, some of thi=
s
> >> > > included.
> >> > > > >> You
> >> > > > >> > >> can
> >> > > > >> > >> follow commits in the blackberry10 branch on our forks t=
o
> >> keep
> >> > > tabs
> >> > > > >> on
> >> > > > >> > us.
> >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > > > >> > >> I'll go update the JIRA tickets, but here are the answer=
s
> to
> >> > your
> >> > > > >> > specific
> >> > > > >> > >> questions:
> >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > > > >> > >> 1. Our docs team is working on these, but they haven't y=
et
> >> > pushed
> >> > > > >> > anything
> >> > > > >> > >> to the fork. I'll follow up.
> >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > > > >> > >> 2. We don't actually have node packaged in the repo. For
> >> > > WebWorks,
> >> > > > >> it is
> >> > > > >> > >> added in during the build process of the distributable.
> I'm
> >> > fine
> >> > > > with
> >> > > > >> > >> adding it and I also think it makes sense to call npm
> >> install
> >> > on
> >> > > > >> > >> ./bin/create if the node_modules aren't present.
> >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > > > >> > >> 3. Agree, help message could be improved
> >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > > > >> > >> 4. We re-based the forks a week or so ago, but still nee=
d
> to
> >> > > bring
> >> > > > in
> >> > > > >> > >> hello
> >> > > > >> > >> world and update versions.
> >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > > > >> > >> 5. We have a fork of cordova-js that introduces
> blackberry10
> >> > as a
> >> > > > >> > >> platform.
> >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > > > >> > >> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Lorin Beer <
> >> > > > lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> > >> wrote:
> >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > > > >> > >> > I want to keep the conversation going concerning the
> >> imminent
> >> > > > >> > migration
> >> > > > >> > >> of
> >> > > > >> > >> > BlackBerry's BB10 implementation to Apache Cordova,
> >> replacing
> >> > > the
> >> > > > >> > >> existing
> >> > > > >> > >> > implementation.
> >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > > > >> > >> > The issues that need to be completed are being tracked
> >> here:
> >> > > > >> > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-3070
> >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > > > >> > >> > With the file system implemented, the BB10
> implementation
> >> is
> >> > > > only 3
> >> > > > >> > >> tests
> >> > > > >> > >> > behind the existing Cordova BB10 implementation, and i=
s
> >> > stable
> >> > > > >> enough
> >> > > > >> > to
> >> > > > >> > >> > accept.
> >> > > > >> > >> > There are, however, a few minor obstacles:
> >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > > > >> > >> > 1. documentation
> >> > > > >> > >> > - BB10 plugin development
> >> > > > >> > >> > - getting started guide
> >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > > > >> > >> > both need to be updated to match the new implementatio=
n.
> >> If
> >> > > this
> >> > > > >> work
> >> > > > >> > is
> >> > > > >> > >> > done, please point me to it, but I couldn't see it in
> the
> >> > > > >> > >> > Blackberry/cordova-docs fork
> >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > > > >> > >> > 2. create script
> >> > > > >> > >> > the create script for BB10 depends on node. This is no=
t
> an
> >> > > issue,
> >> > > > >> as I
> >> > > > >> > >> > understand that node comes packaged with. However, I
> would
> >> > like
> >> > > > to
> >> > > > >> see
> >> > > > >> > >> > package configuration to happen automatically (the npm
> >> > install
> >> > > > >> step)
> >> > > > >> > >> rather
> >> > > > >> > >> > than explicitly.
> >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > > > >> > >> > 3. project create scripts
> >> > > > >> > >> > needs better help messages and documentation
> >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > > > >> > >> > 4. 2.7.0 support
> >> > > > >> > >> > build tools seem to use 2.4.0-rc1. This needs to be
> >> brought
> >> > up
> >> > > to
> >> > > > >> > 2.7.0
> >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > > > >> > >> > 5. cordova-js
> >> > > > >> > >> > it looks like BB10 uses it's own version of cordova.js=
,
> we
> >> > need
> >> > > > to
> >> > > > >> add
> >> > > > >> > >> this
> >> > > > >> > >> > to platforms in cordova-js
> >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > > > >> > >> > Ken, Bryan and any of the BlackBerry folks, please chi=
me
> >> in
> >> > to
> >> > > > >> correct
> >> > > > >> > >> any
> >> > > > >> > >> > misunderstandings, point us to completed work, or
> discuss
> >> the
> >> > > > >> above.
> >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > > > >> > >> > I would also encourage participation on the jira issue
> >> > > discussion
> >> > > > >> > >> threads.
> >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > > > >> > >> > - Lorin
> >> > > > >> > >> >
> >> > > > >> > >>
> >> > > > >> > >
> >> > > > >> > >
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > >
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