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Subject: Re: blackberry 10 migration
From: Lorin Beer <lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com>
To: dev <dev@cordova.apache.org>
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pulled into apache:

github.com/blackberry/
  cordova-blackberry to future branch
  cordova-js to future branch
  cordova-cli to apache future-bb10 branch
  cordova-plugman to apache future branch


spoke briefly with Anis concerning merging into plugman and cli, this will
likely wait until Fil Maj is back from Max. The plugman changes seem to be
orthogonal to the master/future branch (ie non-breaking).

as for cordova-js and cordova-blackberry, plan is to merge those as soon as
docs are in place.

It can take a few hours for the github mirrors to catch up to git-apache,
but retarget those pull requests anytime.


On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Lorin Beer <lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com> wrote:

> will do
>
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Bryan Higgins <bhiggins@blackberry.com>wrote:
>
>> Ok, I'm about to merge from blackberry/blackberry10-rebase into
>> blackberry/blackberry10
>>
>> Let me know when you have pushed into apache. There are some open pull
>> requests which I will re-target.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Jeffrey Heifetz <jheifetz@blackberry.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > What about plugman and cli?
>> >
>> > Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Rogers network.
>> > From: Lorin Beer
>> > Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 7:04 PM
>> > To: dev
>> > Reply To: dev@cordova.apache.org
>> > Subject: Re: blackberry 10 migration
>> >
>> >
>> > ok, we'll pull the code from Blackberry/Blackberry-Cordova and
>> > Blackberry/Cordova-JS into branches in the apache repos. When the docs
>> are
>> > ready, we'll merge them into master.
>> >
>> > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Bryan Higgins <bhiggins@blackberry.com
>> > >wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi Lorin,
>> > >
>> > > That's great. I think we should be able to get out a rough draft over
>> the
>> > > next couple days.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Lorin Beer <lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Hi Bryan, a quick update:
>> > > >
>> > > > I'll be pulling the code in as soon as docs are in place. Let me
>> know
>> > > when
>> > > > you can push a rough draft at us!
>> > > >
>> > > > - Lorin
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Lorin Beer <
>> lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > sounds awesome! Brian is trying to set up a meetings with our
>> teams
>> > > next
>> > > > > week after Max, so I think we are pushing for a post-Max migration
>> > > date,
>> > > > > late next week.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > thanks for the update Bryan,
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Lorin
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 5:24 AM, Bryan Higgins <
>> > bhiggins@blackberry.com
>> > > > >wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> Hi Lorin,
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> We will update to 2.7.0 today and I'm meeting with the docs
>> people
>> > > this
>> > > > >> afternoon.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> If they don't have anything ready, I can bang out a draft while
>> I'm
>> > > > flying
>> > > > >> out to Max on Sunday.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Thanks,
>> > > > >> Bryan
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Lorin Beer <
>> > lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com>
>> > > > >> wrote:
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> > Hi Bryan,
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > any progress on the doc side of things? From my experience with
>> > the
>> > > > new
>> > > > >> > codebase, I shouldn't think that documenting the necessary
>> > workflows
>> > > > >> > (plugins, getting started, etc) should be too time consuming.
>> > > > >> > Currently docs and updating to 2.7.0 are the only blockers to
>> > > pulling
>> > > > >> the
>> > > > >> > blackerry/cordova-blackberry repo into Apache. I would really
>> like
>> > > to
>> > > > >> see
>> > > > >> > this happen this week or early next week.
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > - Lorin
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Lorin Beer <
>> > > lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com
>> > > > >> > >wrote:
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > > thanks Bryan
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > 1. great to hear, once docs are in place, we'll pull those in
>> > > > >> alongside
>> > > > >> > > the core BB implementation
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > 2. ok, I see. There was a little confusion on our end about
>> > this.
>> > > > What
>> > > > >> > I'd
>> > > > >> > > like to see is node not visible as an external dependency.
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > 4. check to see why it's building projects with 2.4.0-rc1
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > 5. saw that, this will be pulled in alongside docs and the
>> core
>> > BB
>> > > > >> repo
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 12:11 PM, Bryan Higgins <
>> > > > >> bryan@bryanhiggins.net
>> > > > >> > >wrote:
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > >> Thanks for following up Lorin.
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >> We're actively working on a bunch of things, some of this
>> > > included.
>> > > > >> You
>> > > > >> > >> can
>> > > > >> > >> follow commits in the blackberry10 branch on our forks to
>> keep
>> > > tabs
>> > > > >> on
>> > > > >> > us.
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >> I'll go update the JIRA tickets, but here are the answers to
>> > your
>> > > > >> > specific
>> > > > >> > >> questions:
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >> 1. Our docs team is working on these, but they haven't yet
>> > pushed
>> > > > >> > anything
>> > > > >> > >> to the fork. I'll follow up.
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >> 2. We don't actually have node packaged in the repo. For
>> > > WebWorks,
>> > > > >> it is
>> > > > >> > >> added in during the build process of the distributable. I'm
>> > fine
>> > > > with
>> > > > >> > >> adding it and I also think it makes sense to call npm
>> install
>> > on
>> > > > >> > >> ./bin/create if the node_modules aren't present.
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >> 3. Agree, help message could be improved
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >> 4. We re-based the forks a week or so ago, but still need to
>> > > bring
>> > > > in
>> > > > >> > >> hello
>> > > > >> > >> world and update versions.
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >> 5. We have a fork of cordova-js that introduces blackberry10
>> > as a
>> > > > >> > >> platform.
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >> On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Lorin Beer <
>> > > > lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > >> wrote:
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >> > I want to keep the conversation going concerning the
>> imminent
>> > > > >> > migration
>> > > > >> > >> of
>> > > > >> > >> > BlackBerry's BB10 implementation to Apache Cordova,
>> replacing
>> > > the
>> > > > >> > >> existing
>> > > > >> > >> > implementation.
>> > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > >> > >> > The issues that need to be completed are being tracked
>> here:
>> > > > >> > >> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CB-3070
>> > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > >> > >> > With the file system implemented, the BB10 implementation
>> is
>> > > > only 3
>> > > > >> > >> tests
>> > > > >> > >> > behind the existing Cordova BB10 implementation, and is
>> > stable
>> > > > >> enough
>> > > > >> > to
>> > > > >> > >> > accept.
>> > > > >> > >> > There are, however, a few minor obstacles:
>> > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > >> > >> > 1. documentation
>> > > > >> > >> > - BB10 plugin development
>> > > > >> > >> > - getting started guide
>> > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > >> > >> > both need to be updated to match the new implementation.
>> If
>> > > this
>> > > > >> work
>> > > > >> > is
>> > > > >> > >> > done, please point me to it, but I couldn't see it in the
>> > > > >> > >> > Blackberry/cordova-docs fork
>> > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > >> > >> > 2. create script
>> > > > >> > >> > the create script for BB10 depends on node. This is not an
>> > > issue,
>> > > > >> as I
>> > > > >> > >> > understand that node comes packaged with. However, I would
>> > like
>> > > > to
>> > > > >> see
>> > > > >> > >> > package configuration to happen automatically (the npm
>> > install
>> > > > >> step)
>> > > > >> > >> rather
>> > > > >> > >> > than explicitly.
>> > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > >> > >> > 3. project create scripts
>> > > > >> > >> > needs better help messages and documentation
>> > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > >> > >> > 4. 2.7.0 support
>> > > > >> > >> > build tools seem to use 2.4.0-rc1. This needs to be
>> brought
>> > up
>> > > to
>> > > > >> > 2.7.0
>> > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > >> > >> > 5. cordova-js
>> > > > >> > >> > it looks like BB10 uses it's own version of cordova.js, we
>> > need
>> > > > to
>> > > > >> add
>> > > > >> > >> this
>> > > > >> > >> > to platforms in cordova-js
>> > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > >> > >> > Ken, Bryan and any of the BlackBerry folks, please chime
>> in
>> > to
>> > > > >> correct
>> > > > >> > >> any
>> > > > >> > >> > misunderstandings, point us to completed work, or discuss
>> the
>> > > > >> above.
>> > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > >> > >> > I would also encourage participation on the jira issue
>> > > discussion
>> > > > >> > >> threads.
>> > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > >> > >> > - Lorin
>> > > > >> > >> >
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
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