Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-cordova-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-cordova-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B4CD3F938 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2013 22:05:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 71266 invoked by uid 500); 10 Apr 2013 22:05:21 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cordova-dev-archive@cordova.apache.org Received: (qmail 71237 invoked by uid 500); 10 Apr 2013 22:05:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cordova.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@cordova.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cordova.apache.org Received: (qmail 71176 invoked by uid 99); 10 Apr 2013 22:05:21 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 10 Apr 2013 22:05:21 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.5 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_REPLY,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of shazron@gmail.com designates 209.85.216.172 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.216.172] (HELO mail-qc0-f172.google.com) (209.85.216.172) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 10 Apr 2013 22:05:17 +0000 Received: by mail-qc0-f172.google.com with SMTP id b25so432741qca.3 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2013 15:04:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:content-type; bh=TPmcVXMmdYnRVA2FqQ/FUBiJkLa2/ldEIzV160H2mB8=; b=PjKN1cWPoiYPgwsZ+49x+wc07cN2+ySs7peDq9A3wOfgUvrf5TaNBhqGOxrxaX5+56 IkjA2IqdPMUWHGDRr2VlN0zssQ9hzjCY/WXJl63Xp7LDJwQshx+KvYUVJG6DO7hEWZ/1 r6yPbQg2/loRGUd0HEdyjZOQbQKoB5mpEaDSYDD8aBu1kLdSAy2KmYhl+ytzFfMM2m7v KRO1JDo+NHDInpEAaboja5hUp05Bx+H9UxFPbVM2Vdqz0MN3DK1x3GfVwgWDwfYatb6B 6PDZf+Z/OOKjefF/hBdiBlr4OsoC2W4QWXA1nbYkDxr5N1qN7fgpvUSsBcJ+q5ZmZW/w pQcQ== X-Received: by 10.224.60.15 with SMTP id n15mr4632282qah.45.1365631496506; Wed, 10 Apr 2013 15:04:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.49.81.144 with HTTP; Wed, 10 Apr 2013 15:04:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <8A753B40-5FE3-474D-A587-D7C522B30202@redhat.com> <4A046D91-28F0-4CDF-B26C-D4C3218ACA10@devgeeks.org> From: Shazron Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 15:04:16 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Android] The Deprecation of Froyo To: "dev@cordova.apache.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3074d3d23e570d04da08dc97 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --20cf3074d3d23e570d04da08dc97 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My Nexus One latest upgradeable OS is 2.3.6 +1 for dropping fwiw On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Lorin Beer wrote= : > +1 for dropping > > Steve found a Nexus One in his filing cabinet last week, wonder what that > was running ... > > > On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Tommy-Carlos Williams > wrote: > > > Hahahah=E2=80=A6 > > > > It was on "Catch of the Day" (an Australian daily deals type site). > > > > Ideos X1 - Android 2.2 > > > > > > > > > > On 11/04/2013, at 7:43 AM, Joe Bowser wrote: > > > > > Was this on Craigslist? > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 2:16 PM, tommy-carlos Williams > > > wrote: > > >> I saw a 2.2 device for sale the other day. I had a sad. > > >> > > >> +1 for dropping it. > > >> > > >> On 11/04/2013, at 6:11, Lucas Holmquist wrote: > > >> > > >>> On our AeroGear project, the lowest thing we support on android is > > 2.3, so +1 for removing > > >>> On Apr 10, 2013, at 3:47 PM, Brian LeRoux wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Lets give this a few days to make sure we're not about hurt anyone= . > > >>>> > > >>>> (I'm in favor of removing support.) > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Michael Wolf < > > Michael.Wolf@cynergy.com>wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> Fwiw I wasn't saying 2.3, but 2.2. The consideration of supporti= ng > > 2.3 > > >>>>> goes based on who your consumer base is, and if 2.3 is worth it > (had > > >>>>> several customers recently where this is a serious discussion). > > Anywho=C5=A0 > > >>>>> loosing 2.2 I don't think would hurt the community greatly. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> mw > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On 4/10/13 2:54 PM, "Joe Bowser" wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> Anyone who thinks we don't need 2.3 support needs to look at wha= t > I > > >>>>>> was considering purchasing for my US phone when on road trips to > > weird > > >>>>>> places like Idaho: > > >>>>> > > > http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/prepay/getPhoneDetail.do?item=3Dprepay= Ite > > >>>>>> m&selectedPhoneId=3D6093&selectedPlanCatId=3D4997 > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Michael Wolf < > > Michael.Wolf@cynergy.com> > > >>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>> Generally we are pushing clients to not touch anything lower th= an > > 2.3 > > >>>>>>> (And > > >>>>>>> having serious discussions about their need for 2.3 support). = So > > from a > > >>>>>>> cordova users perspective this wouldn't bother me. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> mw > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> On 4/10/13 2:10 PM, "Joe Bowser" wrote: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Android 2.2 is a pain point because we only have one device in > the > > >>>>>>>> Vancouver office that is on that version of Android (LG Optimu= s > > 3D). > > >>>>>>>> I'm sure that other places have more of them, but they are > > becoming > > >>>>>>>> increasingly rare, and I'd rather us only have to test 2.3 and > > higher > > >>>>>>>> when we prepare for a release. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Braden Shepherdson > > >>>>>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> Do we have a picture of what this would gain us? What are the > > pain > > >>>>>>>>> points > > >>>>>>>>> in terms of bugs or missing APIs between 2.2 and 2.3? I have > the > > vague > > >>>>>>>>> impression that there are several things, but I actually don'= t > > know. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> If there are advantages, I'm all for it. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Braden > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Joe Bowser > > > >>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Hey > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Good news everyone! Android 2.2 (Froyo) has dipped below 5%. > > This > > >>>>>>>>>> means that we can safely drop support for this version of > > Android and > > >>>>>>>>>> set our lower bound to Android 2.3. The cool thing about th= is > > is > > >>>>>>>>>> that > > >>>>>>>>>> we will only support devices that you can actually buy in a > > store at > > >>>>>>>>>> this point, which I think is something that we should aim > > towards. > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Honestly, if Key Lime Pie figured out a way to get 4.x > > functionality > > >>>>>>>>>> on single-core devices, that'd be awesome, but I highly doub= t > > it. :( > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> So, what do people think about getting rid of Froyo support? > > >>>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>>> Joe > > >>> > > > > > --20cf3074d3d23e570d04da08dc97--