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Subject: Re: [Android] The Deprecation of Froyo
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Joe - did you take any action here? JIRA issue? changing of min version?
Does this mean we can remove apache commons jar?


On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Simon MacDonald
<simon.macdonald@gmail.com>wrote:

> Late to the party but...
>
> +1 for dropping support for 2.2
>
> Simon Mac Donald
> http://hi.im/simonmacdonald
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 9:53 AM, James Jong <wjamesjong@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Deprecation in 2.7?
> >
> > -James Jong
> >
> > On Apr 15, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Filip Maj <fil@adobe.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Looks like we have consensus
> >>
> >> Joe is going to be happy :)
> >>
> >> On 4/15/13 10:24 AM, "Andrew Grieve" <agrieve@chromium.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> +1 DROP!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Shazron <shazron@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> My Nexus One latest upgradeable OS is 2.3.6
> >>>>
> >>>> +1 for dropping fwiw
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Lorin Beer <lorin.beer.dev@gmail.co=
m
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> +1 for dropping
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Steve found a Nexus One in his filing cabinet last week, wonder wha=
t
> >>>> that
> >>>>> was running ...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Tommy-Carlos Williams
> >>>>> <tommy@devgeeks.org>wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hahahah...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It was on "Catch of the Day" (an Australian daily deals type site)=
.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ideos X1 - Android 2.2
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 11/04/2013, at 7:43 AM, Joe Bowser <bowserj@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Was this on Craigslist?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 2:16 PM, tommy-carlos Williams
> >>>>>>> <tommy@devgeeks.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> I saw a 2.2 device for sale the other day. I had a sad.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> +1 for dropping it.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 11/04/2013, at 6:11, Lucas Holmquist <lholmqui@redhat.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On our AeroGear project, the lowest thing we support on android
> >>>> is
> >>>>>> 2.3,  so +1 for removing
> >>>>>>>>> On Apr 10, 2013, at 3:47 PM, Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Lets give this a few days to make sure we're not about hurt
> >>>> anyone.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> (I'm in favor of removing support.)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Michael Wolf <
> >>>>>> Michael.Wolf@cynergy.com>wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Fwiw I wasn't saying 2.3, but 2.2.  The consideration of
> >>>> supporting
> >>>>>> 2.3
> >>>>>>>>>>> goes based on who your consumer base is, and if 2.3 is worth
> >>>> it
> >>>>> (had
> >>>>>>>>>>> several customers recently where this is a serious
> >>>> discussion).
> >>>>>> Anywho=C5=A0
> >>>>>>>>>>> loosing 2.2 I don't think would hurt the community greatly.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> mw
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 4/10/13 2:54 PM, "Joe Bowser" <bowserj@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone who thinks we don't need 2.3 support needs to look at
> >>>> what
> >>>>> I
> >>>>>>>>>>>> was considering purchasing for my US phone when on road
> >>>> trips to
> >>>>>> weird
> >>>>>>>>>>>> places like Idaho:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/prepay/getPhoneDetail.do?item=3Dprepay=
It
> >>>> e
> >>>>>>>>>>>> m&selectedPhoneId=3D6093&selectedPlanCatId=3D4997
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Michael Wolf <
> >>>>>> Michael.Wolf@cynergy.com>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Generally we are pushing clients to not touch anything lowe=
r
> >>>> than
> >>>>>> 2.3
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> (And
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> having serious discussions about their need for 2.3
> >>>> support).
> >>>> So
> >>>>>> from a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> cordova users perspective this wouldn't bother me.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> mw
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/10/13 2:10 PM, "Joe Bowser" <bowserj@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Android 2.2 is a pain point because we only have one
> >>>> device in
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vancouver office that is on that version of Android (LG
> >>>> Optimus
> >>>>>> 3D).
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure that other places have more of them, but they are
> >>>>>> becoming
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> increasingly rare, and I'd rather us only have to test 2.3
> >>>> and
> >>>>>> higher
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> when we prepare for a release.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Braden Shepherdson
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <braden@chromium.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we have a picture of what this would gain us? What are
> >>>> the
> >>>>>> pain
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> points
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in terms of bugs or missing APIs between 2.2 and 2.3? I
> >>>> have
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>> vague
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impression that there are several things, but I actually
> >>>> don't
> >>>>>> know.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there are advantages, I'm all for it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Braden
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Joe Bowser <
> >>>> bowserj@gmail.com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good news everyone! Android 2.2 (Froyo) has dipped below
> >>>> 5%.
> >>>>>> This
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> means that we can safely drop support for this version o=
f
> >>>>>> Android and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set our lower bound to Android 2.3.  The cool thing abou=
t
> >>>> this
> >>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we will only support devices that you can actually buy
> >>>> in a
> >>>>>> store at
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this point, which I think is something that we should ai=
m
> >>>>>> towards.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Honestly, if Key Lime Pie figured out a way to get 4.x
> >>>>>> functionality
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on single-core devices, that'd be awesome, but I highly
> >>>> doubt
> >>>>>> it. :(
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, what do people think about getting rid of Froyo
> >>>> support?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >
>

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