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From Simon MacDonald <simon.macdon...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [Android] The Deprecation of Froyo
Date Wed, 17 Apr 2013 13:59:26 GMT
Late to the party but...

+1 for dropping support for 2.2

Simon Mac Donald
http://hi.im/simonmacdonald


On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 9:53 AM, James Jong <wjamesjong@gmail.com> wrote:
> Deprecation in 2.7?
>
> -James Jong
>
> On Apr 15, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Filip Maj <fil@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>> Looks like we have consensus
>>
>> Joe is going to be happy :)
>>
>> On 4/15/13 10:24 AM, "Andrew Grieve" <agrieve@chromium.org> wrote:
>>
>>> +1 DROP!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Shazron <shazron@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My Nexus One latest upgradeable OS is 2.3.6
>>>>
>>>> +1 for dropping fwiw
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Lorin Beer <lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> +1 for dropping
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve found a Nexus One in his filing cabinet last week, wonder what
>>>> that
>>>>> was running ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Tommy-Carlos Williams
>>>>> <tommy@devgeeks.org>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hahahah...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It was on "Catch of the Day" (an Australian daily deals type site).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ideos X1 - Android 2.2
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/04/2013, at 7:43 AM, Joe Bowser <bowserj@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Was this on Craigslist?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 2:16 PM, tommy-carlos Williams
>>>>>>> <tommy@devgeeks.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I saw a 2.2 device for sale the other day. I had a sad.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +1 for dropping it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/04/2013, at 6:11, Lucas Holmquist <lholmqui@redhat.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On our AeroGear project, the lowest thing we support
on android
>>>> is
>>>>>> 2.3,  so +1 for removing
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 10, 2013, at 3:47 PM, Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io>
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Lets give this a few days to make sure we're not
about hurt
>>>> anyone.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> (I'm in favor of removing support.)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Michael Wolf <
>>>>>> Michael.Wolf@cynergy.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Fwiw I wasn't saying 2.3, but 2.2.  The consideration
of
>>>> supporting
>>>>>> 2.3
>>>>>>>>>>> goes based on who your consumer base is, and
if 2.3 is worth
>>>> it
>>>>> (had
>>>>>>>>>>> several customers recently where this is a serious
>>>> discussion).
>>>>>> AnywhoÅ 
>>>>>>>>>>> loosing 2.2 I don't think would hurt the community
greatly.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> mw
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/10/13 2:54 PM, "Joe Bowser" <bowserj@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone who thinks we don't need 2.3 support
needs to look at
>>>> what
>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> was considering purchasing for my US phone
when on road
>>>> trips to
>>>>>> weird
>>>>>>>>>>>> places like Idaho:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/prepay/getPhoneDetail.do?item=prepayIt
>>>> e
>>>>>>>>>>>> m&selectedPhoneId=6093&selectedPlanCatId=4997
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Michael
Wolf <
>>>>>> Michael.Wolf@cynergy.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Generally we are pushing clients to not
touch anything lower
>>>> than
>>>>>> 2.3
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (And
>>>>>>>>>>>>> having serious discussions about their
need for 2.3
>>>> support).
>>>> So
>>>>>> from a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> cordova users perspective this wouldn't
bother me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/10/13 2:10 PM, "Joe Bowser" <bowserj@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Android 2.2 is a pain point because
we only have one
>>>> device in
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vancouver office that is on that
version of Android (LG
>>>> Optimus
>>>>>> 3D).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure that other places have more
of them, but they are
>>>>>> becoming
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> increasingly rare, and I'd rather
us only have to test 2.3
>>>> and
>>>>>> higher
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when we prepare for a release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:54 AM,
Braden Shepherdson
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <braden@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we have a picture of what
this would gain us? What are
>>>> the
>>>>>> pain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> points
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in terms of bugs or missing APIs
between 2.2 and 2.3? I
>>>> have
>>>>> the
>>>>>> vague
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impression that there are several
things, but I actually
>>>> don't
>>>>>> know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there are advantages, I'm
all for it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Braden
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:49
PM, Joe Bowser <
>>>> bowserj@gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good news everyone! Android
2.2 (Froyo) has dipped below
>>>> 5%.
>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> means that we can safely
drop support for this version of
>>>>>> Android and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set our lower bound to Android
2.3.  The cool thing about
>>>> this
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we will only support devices
that you can actually buy
>>>> in a
>>>>>> store at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this point, which I think
is something that we should aim
>>>>>> towards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Honestly, if Key Lime Pie
figured out a way to get 4.x
>>>>>> functionality
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on single-core devices, that'd
be awesome, but I highly
>>>> doubt
>>>>>> it. :(
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, what do people think
about getting rid of Froyo
>>>> support?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>

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