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From Lorin Beer <lorin.beer....@gmail.com>
Subject Re: App-Harness Description
Date Fri, 05 Apr 2013 14:19:08 GMT
perfect!


On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Andrew Grieve <agrieve@chromium.org> wrote:

> Shravan (our intern) has been started working on it late last week, and I
> think he's hoping to commit a first version of it some time tomorrow.
>
> Definitely would love help! More hands on this the better. Maybe let's wait
> until Shravan reveals what he's got up his sleeves, and the figure out what
> parts can be worked on in parallel. Sound good?
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Lorin Beer <lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Really psyched about this, Andrew! It's going to be a huge improvement
> for
> > dev workflow! Are you taking all this on your own? Or are you looking for
> > other contributors to help out?
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 7:24 AM, Andrew Grieve <agrieve@chromium.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Great! Thanks Lorin. I've responded to all comments in the doc. Those
> > that
> > > I didn't comment on, consider me a +1 :)
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Lorin Beer <lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Awesome! I also dropped comments and questions into the google doc
> > > > yesterday.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Michael Brooks <
> > > michael@michaelbrooks.ca
> > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks Andrew!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Andrew Grieve <
> agrieve@chromium.org>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Fastest Yet! Repo is created:
> > > > > > https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/cordova-app-harness.git
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 8:39 PM, Andrew Grieve <
> > agrieve@chromium.org>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > INFRA ticket filed!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6103
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Filip Maj <fil@adobe.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> Fiiiiineee. +1 harness.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> I'll save WebKeg for another day!
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> On 4/1/13 4:40 PM, "Lorin Beer" <lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> >while some truly excellent names have been suggested,
I'll +1
> > > > > harness.
> > > > > > >> Fil
> > > > > > >> >will just have to wait for a project named "WebKeg".
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Michael Brooks
> > > > > > >> ><michael@michaelbrooks.ca>wrote:
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >> You also get a Google app based on Cordova's
Harness app.
> > Open
> > > > > > source!
> > > > > > >> >>:)
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >> The general consensus seems to be the name
"Harness."
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >> Any complaints with...?
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >> - repository name: cordova-app-harness
> > > > > > >> >> - discuss name: Cordova App Harness
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >> Michael
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >> On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 3:11 AM, Giorgio Natili
<
> > > > > > g.natili@gnstudio.com
> > > > > > >> >> >wrote:
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >> > Makes sense, it means we will get an
Adobe app based upon
> > the
> > > > > > harness
> > > > > > >> >> > one... Cool!
> > > > > > >> >> >
> > > > > > >> >> > On 4/1/13 7:40 AM, "Brian LeRoux" <b@brian.io>
wrote:
> > > > > > >> >> >
> > > > > > >> >> > >There should be no PhoneGap in the
name.
> > > > > > >> >> > >
> > > > > > >> >> > >There will be a PhoneGap app based
on the Cordova code
> (as
> > > > there
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > >> >>with
> > > > > > >> >> > >the distribution).
> > > > > > >> >> > >
> > > > > > >> >> > >Make sense?
> > > > > > >> >> > >
> > > > > > >> >> > >On Sunday, March 31, 2013, Giorgio
Natili wrote:
> > > > > > >> >> > >
> > > > > > >> >> > >> I prefer cordova-harness too
but right now cordova is
> > less
> > > > > known
> > > > > > >> >>that
> > > > > > >> >> > >> PhoneGap. Do you think that
a name like
> > > > > cordova-phonegap-harness
> > > > > > >> >> should
> > > > > > >> >> > >>be
> > > > > > >> >> > >> too long?
> > > > > > >> >> > >>
> > > > > > >> >> > >> Giorgio
> > > > > > >> >> > >>
> > > > > > >> >> > >> On 3/29/13 1:40 AM, "Simon MacDonald"
<
> > > > > > simon.macdonald@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >> >> > wrote:
> > > > > > >> >> > >>
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >I prefer cordova-harness
to cordova-app myself.
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >Simon Mac Donald
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >http://hi.im/simonmacdonald
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at
8:37 PM, Michal Mocny
> > > > > > >> >><mmocny@chromium.org>
> > > > > > >> >> > >> wrote:
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >> FWIW, I dont think
thats a good idea.  Will likely
> > lead
> > > > to
> > > > > > >> >> ambiguity
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >> between "a cordova
app" and "the cordova-app", not
> to
> > > > > mention
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>googleability.
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >> Sorry, but I don't
have any awesome suggestions,
> but
> > I
> > > > > > thought
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >> cordova-harness was
fine.
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >> -Michal
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >> On Thu, Mar 28, 2013
at 5:56 PM, Brian LeRoux <
> > > > b@brian.io>
> > > > > > >> >>wrote:
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> cordova-app sounds
good to me
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>>
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> On Thu, Mar 28,
2013 at 2:45 PM, Andrew Grieve
> > > > > > >> >> > >><agrieve@chromium.org>
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> wrote:
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> > I don't think
we need to decide on an App Store
> > name
> > > > > yet.
> > > > > > >> >>Repo
> > > > > > >> >> > >>name
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> sounds
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> > good though.
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> > On Thu, Mar
28, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Michael Brooks
> <
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> michael@michaelbrooks.ca>wrote:
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >> Alright,
I want to get this project started and
> > we
> > > > need
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > >> >> settle
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>>on a
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >> name.
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >>
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >> No one
has made a compelling argument against
> > > calling
> > > > > the
> > > > > > >> >>app
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>>"Cordova."
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >>
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >> Proposed
name:
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >>
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >> - App
Store name: "Cordova"
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >> - Repository
name: "cordova-app"
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >>
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >> Here are
my reasons:
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >>
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >> 1. We
naturally refer to it as "The Cordova
> App"
> > in
> > > > > > casual
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>>discussion
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >>
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> > We haven't
though. Sounds quite ambiguous to me
> > > since
> > > > > > >> Cordova
> > > > > > >> >> is a
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> > framework
for building apps. "The Cordova App"
> -->
> > > > which
> > > > > > >> >>Cordova
> > > > > > >> >> > >>app?
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >> 2. There
are no plans for any other app, making
> > > this
> > > > > "The
> > > > > > >> >> Cordova
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>>App."
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >>
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> > There already
exist a bunch of similar apps by
> > other
> > > > > > people
> > > > > > >> >>the.
> > > > > > >> >> > >>E.g.
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> > "Cordova Browser"
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >> 3. Most
OS's limit the name length, so "Cordova
> > > XXX"
> > > > > will
> > > > > > >> >> likely
> > > > > > >> >> > >>be
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>>too
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >>
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> > Good point
here. This is easy to test on iOS by
> > > > creating
> > > > > > >> >> > >>home-screen
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> > bookmarks
from safari. Couldn't get any of the
> > > names I
> > > > > > liked
> > > > > > >> >>:(.
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >> 4. All
Cordova app examples (e.g. Hello World)
> > are
> > > > > > prefixed
> > > > > > >> >>as
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >> "cordova-app-xxx"
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >>
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> > I think the
name's fine, but wouldn't this be an
> > > > > argument
> > > > > > >> for
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>>calling it
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> > "cordova-app-cordova"
:P
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >>
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >> Michael
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >>
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >> On Tue,
Mar 26, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Benn Mapes
> > > > > > >> >> > >><benn.mapes@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> wrote:
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >>
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >> > +1
for WebKeg
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >> >
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >> >
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >> > On
Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Brian
> LeRoux
> > > > > > >> >><b@brian.io>
> > > > > > >> >> > >> wrote:
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >> >
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >> > >
omg. yes!
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >> > >
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >> > >
cordova-webkeg
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >> > >
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >> > >
I can see the Yohei style app icon
> already..
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >> > >
> > > > > > >> >> > >> >>> >> > >
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Douglas
> > > Campos
> > > > > > <qmx@q
> > > > > > >> >> >
> > > > > > >> >> >
> > > > > > >> >> >
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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