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From James Jong <wjamesj...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [Android] The Deprecation of Froyo
Date Wed, 17 Apr 2013 13:53:08 GMT
Deprecation in 2.7?

-James Jong

On Apr 15, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Filip Maj <fil@adobe.com> wrote:

> Looks like we have consensus
> 
> Joe is going to be happy :)
> 
> On 4/15/13 10:24 AM, "Andrew Grieve" <agrieve@chromium.org> wrote:
> 
>> +1 DROP!
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Shazron <shazron@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> My Nexus One latest upgradeable OS is 2.3.6
>>> 
>>> +1 for dropping fwiw
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Lorin Beer <lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> +1 for dropping
>>>> 
>>>> Steve found a Nexus One in his filing cabinet last week, wonder what
>>> that
>>>> was running ...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Tommy-Carlos Williams
>>>> <tommy@devgeeks.org>wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hahahah...
>>>>> 
>>>>> It was on "Catch of the Day" (an Australian daily deals type site).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ideos X1 - Android 2.2
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 11/04/2013, at 7:43 AM, Joe Bowser <bowserj@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Was this on Craigslist?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 2:16 PM, tommy-carlos Williams
>>>>>> <tommy@devgeeks.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> I saw a 2.2 device for sale the other day. I had a sad.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> +1 for dropping it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 11/04/2013, at 6:11, Lucas Holmquist <lholmqui@redhat.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On our AeroGear project, the lowest thing we support on android
>>> is
>>>>> 2.3,  so +1 for removing
>>>>>>>> On Apr 10, 2013, at 3:47 PM, Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io>
wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Lets give this a few days to make sure we're not about
hurt
>>> anyone.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> (I'm in favor of removing support.)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:03 PM, Michael Wolf <
>>>>> Michael.Wolf@cynergy.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Fwiw I wasn't saying 2.3, but 2.2.  The consideration
of
>>> supporting
>>>>> 2.3
>>>>>>>>>> goes based on who your consumer base is, and if 2.3
is worth
>>> it
>>>> (had
>>>>>>>>>> several customers recently where this is a serious
>>> discussion).
>>>>> AnywhoÅ 
>>>>>>>>>> loosing 2.2 I don't think would hurt the community
greatly.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> mw
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/10/13 2:54 PM, "Joe Bowser" <bowserj@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Anyone who thinks we don't need 2.3 support needs
to look at
>>> what
>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> was considering purchasing for my US phone when
on road
>>> trips to
>>>>> weird
>>>>>>>>>>> places like Idaho:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/prepay/getPhoneDetail.do?item=prepayIt
>>> e
>>>>>>>>>>> m&selectedPhoneId=6093&selectedPlanCatId=4997
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Michael Wolf
<
>>>>> Michael.Wolf@cynergy.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Generally we are pushing clients to not touch
anything lower
>>> than
>>>>> 2.3
>>>>>>>>>>>> (And
>>>>>>>>>>>> having serious discussions about their need
for 2.3
>>> support).
>>> So
>>>>> from a
>>>>>>>>>>>> cordova users perspective this wouldn't bother
me.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> mw
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/10/13 2:10 PM, "Joe Bowser" <bowserj@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Android 2.2 is a pain point because we
only have one
>>> device in
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vancouver office that is on that version
of Android (LG
>>> Optimus
>>>>> 3D).
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure that other places have more
of them, but they are
>>>>> becoming
>>>>>>>>>>>>> increasingly rare, and I'd rather us
only have to test 2.3
>>> and
>>>>> higher
>>>>>>>>>>>>> when we prepare for a release.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Braden
Shepherdson
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <braden@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do we have a picture of what this
would gain us? What are
>>> the
>>>>> pain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> points
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in terms of bugs or missing APIs
between 2.2 and 2.3? I
>>> have
>>>> the
>>>>> vague
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> impression that there are several
things, but I actually
>>> don't
>>>>> know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If there are advantages, I'm all
for it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Braden
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 1:49 PM,
Joe Bowser <
>>> bowserj@gmail.com
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good news everyone! Android 2.2
(Froyo) has dipped below
>>> 5%.
>>>>> This
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> means that we can safely drop
support for this version of
>>>>> Android and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set our lower bound to Android
2.3.  The cool thing about
>>> this
>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we will only support devices
that you can actually buy
>>> in a
>>>>> store at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this point, which I think is
something that we should aim
>>>>> towards.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Honestly, if Key Lime Pie figured
out a way to get 4.x
>>>>> functionality
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on single-core devices, that'd
be awesome, but I highly
>>> doubt
>>>>> it. :(
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, what do people think about
getting rid of Froyo
>>> support?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
> 


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