Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-cordova-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-cordova-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 47CE2EBFF for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 18:45:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 67597 invoked by uid 500); 17 Mar 2013 18:45:22 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-cordova-dev-archive@cordova.apache.org Received: (qmail 67528 invoked by uid 500); 17 Mar 2013 18:45:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@cordova.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@cordova.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@cordova.apache.org Received: (qmail 67514 invoked by uid 99); 17 Mar 2013 18:45:21 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 18:45:21 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of mikeywbrooks@gmail.com designates 74.125.82.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.125.82.175] (HELO mail-we0-f175.google.com) (74.125.82.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 18:45:16 +0000 Received: by mail-we0-f175.google.com with SMTP id x8so4365834wey.34 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 11:44:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=DmnKl3tpPsPyEVyMQObCSwu0cZ2OZXAd9DgRPVlUsd0=; b=kpczMDcvQvkPrAvC5Ij1H6vDiqj05BnEzv3zQIaMoGlX3/Vltt8gafgWKFogw8IVZZ yvlsC9msrN6ZBMQkhCjJbRqMbPWKQ8rAhfqsoP0cHIXrpxJobdJG67sJy9guDtU1P/4l EverEtO4p01wuxUd1lE8Hsh8gEia5PfYwIVuso5my3jm4iT1DjeHeTtFbTau5QOUFxnU 3TNntnpI7NCNfkhA/nxFosMdufMvg7n/jhCFFrYVggNnKp4QO9aRX2bKzZLe6nsUEBtN ALSdWgKL1EKq5mD62NQ7b5nCsV+/0n68MSleanz9M0i7j16jPlo87v5vhUrJxiowbUAI EXXQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.10.105 with SMTP id h9mr6944886wib.34.1363545895702; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 11:44:55 -0700 (PDT) Sender: mikeywbrooks@gmail.com Received: by 10.216.153.100 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 11:44:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 11:44:55 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3iH2Vf6nEYQz8VeWqikwLlmkYA4 Message-ID: Subject: Re: archiving older platforms From: Michael Brooks To: dev@cordova.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c26366bf985904d823448f X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --001a11c26366bf985904d823448f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > As far as bb 6 and 7, I am sure the majority of devices out there are BB 6 > and 7. BB10 just came out so there can't be that many yet. Developers don't > seem to be interested in those platform though and I think the focus should > be on BB10. It would probably be more accurate to say "BlackBerry Java" which includes BB 4.6/5/6/7 - yep, we "support" all the way back 4.6 although no one tests that far back anymore. I've heard BlackBerry voice the opinion that they would like to see Apache Cordova focus solely on BlackBerry 10. However, PhoneGap/Build has seen a large demand for BlackBerry 5 and 6. +1 Bada +1 webOS - we may want to bring this out of the Attic in the future +1 QR - we may want to bring it this out of the Attic when gearing up for Ubuntu Phone +0 BB - I want to talk with the our PhoneGap/Build team to better understand their stance. I'd also like Ken or Jeff from BlackBerry to chime in with their opinion. On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Anis KADRI wrote: > +1 to kill those platforms and archive them in the attic :-D > > If WebOS, Qt become relevant again we can revive them from the attic. > > > On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Anis KADRI wrote: > > > According to [1]: > > > > "Projects whose PMC are unable to muster 3 votes for a release, who have > > no active committers or are unable to fulfill their reporting duties to > the > > board are all good candidates for the Attic." > > > > I believe those projects satisfy the "no active committers" argument. > > > > I don't see any active committers for Bada, Qt or WebOS. > > > > Markus Leutwyler is the only WebOS committer and is no longer employed by > > the company that is in charge of it and I am not sure if he's still > > interested in maintaining it. There are still devices out there I am sure > > but no new devices are getting shipped. > > > > Bada is officially dead [2] but they still released an SDK a couple of > > weeks ago [3] O_O! They still owned #4 spot in Q3 2012 ahead of Windows > > Phone [4] > > > > As far as bb 6 and 7, I am sure the majority of devices out there are BB > 6 > > and 7. BB10 just came out so there can't be that many yet. Developers > don't > > seem to be interested in those platform though and I think the focus > should > > be on BB10. > > > > [1] http://attic.apache.org/ > > [2] > > > http://www.fiercemobilecontent.com/story/samsung-scraps-bada-os-folds-it-tizen/2013-02-25 > > [3] http://static.bada.com/releasenotes/2.0.6.html > > [4] http://www.gartner.com/newsroom/id/2237315 > > > > > > On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 10:15 PM, Brian LeRoux wrote: > > > >> The question has come up about our continued support for: > >> > >> - bada > >> - webos > >> - qt > >> - bb6 & bb7 > >> > >> Nobody is currently actively maintaining Bada, and Qt. However, I > >> could see us wanting to keep Qt around given Ubuntu Phone. There are > >> no new webOS devices, though rumours persist they could happen, it > >> seems like its more of a ceremony than real support. The older BB > >> platforms are maintained but the real focus is BB10. > >> > >> Thoughts? > >> > > > > > --001a11c26366bf985904d823448f--