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From Anis KADRI <anis.ka...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: archiving older platforms
Date Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:59:56 GMT
s/QR/Qt


On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Lorin Beer <lorin.beer.dev@gmail.com>wrote:

> +1 Bada/webOS/QR
>
> echoing Michael's point, I'd like to see usage stats on the older BB
> platforms. BB10 should absolutely be the focus, but If they are currently
> being used, mothballing may be premature. Revisiting the issues regularly,
> and making one based on usage stats makes the most sense to me.
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 11:56 AM, Filip Maj <fil@adobe.com> wrote:
>
> > +1 all of them, Java and Air implementations of BlackBerry as well.
> >
> > For the older implementations of BlackBerry, nothing is stopping anyone
> > from using that code. The fact is that Java and Air-related fixes have
> not
> > been going in regularly. The implementations are stable enough that
> > drawing a line in the sand and saying no more active support for the
> older
> > BB SDKs is acceptable in my opinion.
> >
> > On 3/17/13 11:44 AM, "Michael Brooks" <michael@michaelbrooks.ca> wrote:
> >
> > >>
> > >> As far as bb 6 and 7, I am sure the majority of devices out there are
> > >>BB 6
> > >> and 7. BB10 just came out so there can't be that many yet. Developers
> > >>don't
> > >> seem to be interested in those platform though and I think the focus
> > >>should
> > >> be on BB10.
> > >
> > >
> > >It would probably be more accurate to say "BlackBerry Java" which
> includes
> > >BB 4.6/5/6/7 - yep, we "support" all the way back 4.6 although no one
> > >tests
> > >that far back anymore.
> > >
> > >I've heard BlackBerry voice the opinion that they would like to see
> Apache
> > >Cordova focus solely on BlackBerry 10. However, PhoneGap/Build has seen
> a
> > >large demand for BlackBerry 5 and 6.
> > >
> > >+1 Bada
> > >
> > >+1 webOS - we may want to bring this out of the Attic in the future
> > >
> > >+1 QR - we may want to bring it this out of the Attic when gearing up
> for
> > >Ubuntu Phone
> > >
> > >+0 BB - I want to talk with the our PhoneGap/Build team to better
> > >understand their stance. I'd also like Ken or Jeff from BlackBerry to
> > >chime
> > >in with their opinion.
> > >
> > >On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Anis KADRI <anis.kadri@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> +1 to kill those platforms and archive them in the attic :-D
> > >>
> > >> If WebOS, Qt become relevant again we can revive them from the attic.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Anis KADRI <anis.kadri@gmail.com>
> > >>wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > According to [1]:
> > >> >
> > >> > "Projects whose PMC are unable to muster 3 votes for a release, who
> > >>have
> > >> > no active committers or are unable to fulfill their reporting duties
> > >>to
> > >> the
> > >> > board are all good candidates for the Attic."
> > >> >
> > >> > I believe those projects satisfy the "no active committers"
> argument.
> > >> >
> > >> > I don't see any active committers for Bada, Qt or WebOS.
> > >> >
> > >> > Markus Leutwyler is the only WebOS committer and is no longer
> > >>employed by
> > >> > the company that is in charge of it and I am not sure if he's still
> > >> > interested in maintaining it. There are still devices out there I
am
> > >>sure
> > >> > but no new devices are getting shipped.
> > >> >
> > >> > Bada is officially dead [2] but they still released an SDK a couple
> of
> > >> > weeks ago [3] O_O! They still owned #4 spot in Q3 2012 ahead of
> > >>Windows
> > >> > Phone [4]
> > >> >
> > >> > As far as bb 6 and 7, I am sure the majority of devices out there
> are
> > >>BB
> > >> 6
> > >> > and 7. BB10 just came out so there can't be that many yet.
> Developers
> > >> don't
> > >> > seem to be interested in those platform though and I think the focus
> > >> should
> > >> > be on BB10.
> > >> >
> > >> > [1] http://attic.apache.org/
> > >> > [2]
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> http://www.fiercemobilecontent.com/story/samsung-scraps-bada-os-folds-it-
> > >>tizen/2013-02-25
> > >> > [3] http://static.bada.com/releasenotes/2.0.6.html
> > >> > [4] http://www.gartner.com/newsroom/id/2237315
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 10:15 PM, Brian LeRoux <b@brian.io>
wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> The question has come up about our continued support for:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> - bada
> > >> >> - webos
> > >> >> - qt
> > >> >> - bb6 & bb7
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Nobody is currently actively maintaining Bada, and Qt. However,
I
> > >> >> could see us wanting to keep Qt around given Ubuntu Phone. There
> are
> > >> >> no new webOS devices, though rumours persist they could happen,
it
> > >> >> seems like its more of a ceremony than real support. The older
BB
> > >> >> platforms are maintained but the real focus is BB10.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Thoughts?
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
> >
>

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